qwertydude Originally Posted by jriggs I never directed comments at you. And I never claimed my Boss amp made it's rated power or was good enough to double it's power when impedance was halved. But I do know my Hifonics amps can do that and so many people trash Hifonics when their own gear is really just as comparable under the hood.



But what I did claim is the Boss amp for $100 can output at least 800 watts RMS cleanly into 2 ohms, my testing was at 13.0 volts just because that's the only power supply I have capable of putting out a stable 100 amps to be able to test my high powered gear. It would put out even more power if I could crank up the volts. But my experience is even in less than ideal conditions this Boss amp can put out 800+ watts of clean power and costs $100. Is there even any other amplifier on the market that can do that? And I don't care that it's over rated, I just care that it makes a lot of power cheaply and quite efficiently too as the amp at 800 watts doesn't even get hot.



What I'm saying is spec for spec a $400 Focal amp doesn't justify it's cost at all when compared to a budget brand like Hifonics which can double their wattage when impedance is halved and the Focal can barely hold its own with specs that nearly match my Boss at 1/4 the price.



And like I said I buy for the quality I WANT regardless of brand. If a brand can't deliver the power I WANT cleanly for a good price why would I even consider it? Focal may be a good brand they made good amps before based on quality performance and good construction but now even their "cheap" amp is $400 and has no specifications on it that really differentiate itself from Boss, it's equally low performing has the same cheap features like volume control knob, cheap plastic speaker level inputs, bass boost knob, and certainly for much more money. So why would anyone buy it except only to be a brand whore?



Heck even the JL HD amp at least has a feature of a selectable crossover slope that makes it at least somewhat unique. The feature set of the Focal FPP puts it exactly in line with Boss amps only with less power and you don't even have a nice 2v-8v input voltage switch like on my Boss.



And yes Boss does exaggerate their wattages but in the real world so do many other brands. But performance-wise 800+ clean watts for $100 is nothing to sneeze at.



The FPP line has to be the direct successor of the FP line simply because there are only two lines of amplifiers in the Focal USA lineup. There's the pricey FPS and the slightly less pricy FPP. The FP is discontinued but I'd much rather have an FP than an FPP simply for the better internal components. And the only thing that really separates the FPS from the FP is separate power supplies and independent channels, still the same cheap internal components and construction as the FPP.



And as for a list of what amps are failing just keep an eye on the board. People have problems with amps all the time. And it's just as likely to be an expensive one as a cheap one.