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And here comes full translation of his paper. All my comments or introduction would be put after “//“.



Title"Prediction on LFY vs IG.V Ban/Pick"



All data offered by “belief data” //LOL, it should be an ad.



I would like to divide the whole B/P period into two periods. 1-8 mainly serve banning opponents hot heroes, pick key heroes. And 9-20 would be make-up for previous picks or counter pick on opponents. Usually, main predictions(actually how pro team make preparation) would be on 1-8, since 9-20 could vary too much and 9-20 depend a lot on 1-8. So now, we try to predict the 1-8 on LFY vs IG.V. //omg, I really can’t translate some phrases, it’s too oral. But main idea of this paragraph is “1-8 prediction is important, 9-20 prediction is impossible and meaningless”. Btw, seems that 1-8 means first two bans and first two picks of both teams. 9-20 are the remaining.



Considering first pick or not, prediction on 1-8 won’t be distinguished by ban or pick, it would be in mixed form.(e.g If I’m first pick, I won’t ban hot heroes. If opponent doesn’t ban, then I will pick it).Anyway, what’s important for 1-8 is that they are premier options in this game. //explain why he can’t predict concisely what heroes would be banned and what would be picked in 1-8. I think we can skip this para.



//What’s real comes now!!!



First we check carry position. No hot heroes for carry position in this version, and it would be easily countered if we pick carry too early. Plus two carry players don’t like to play functional heroes, thus there won’t be any carry heroes in 1-8. //functional heroes should be things like silencer, vs, etc.



Then it’s turn for mid player. First we should take a look on what they usually take.









Upper one is hero pool for LFY mid player, the other for IGV. It’s obvious that OD should be one of the “key heroes”. Both are playing well with good statistics and pick a lot. //the statistics are basically in Chinese, and I can’t understand some of them. So no translations here.



Then jugg. If we pick jugg in 1-8 it may be easily countered by pick like sven or lyc, but jugg could played as carry as well as mid. Thus we put jugg in reservations.



Timbersaw would be put in reservations, just as jugg.





Now comes offlane.









Still, upper one for LFY.





Sooooo obvious that SK/BAT/SG are hot heroes for both teams. However, three heroes are too much to ban. And these three heroes perform really good at offlane if one support could go with them(BAT could even solo safe lane). Under this condition, carry player may receive great pressure(and both carry players play really really important role in their teams). Hence, these three heroes are not likely to be banned but could be picked. We still put these three heroes in reservations.



At last, supports.













Still ,upper two for LFY.



Position 4 and position 5 player may change their roles, and the division on hero pool is fuzzy. So I put them together.



First, xiao8’s played enigma so many times with so high win rate, theoretically IGV should ban it. However IGV’s silencer also appeared so many times with high win rate. Then it would be possible that IGV release enigma, and be prepared to pick silencer. Therefore, I guess enigma and silencer would be neglected in 1-8. They may play around it during 9-20.



Earth spirit, may be picked in 1-8, an all-round hero which could collaborate with anyone.

//actually this hero is forgotten in final conclusion, don’t know why.



Meanwhile, IGV plays invisible heroes a lot, SA and BH. LFY also plays them. One option would be each team ban one of them. It is also possible one team ban one of them, release another one. If you pick invisible hero, them I will have three heroes at your safelane. //not sure if you can understand author’s idea, hard to translate :D



Conclusion:



Summing up all together, and considering the collaborations and counters between heroes, I predict what will appear in 1-8:



OD, SK, SG, BAT, SA, BH, JUGG



Disruptor, Rubick (both teams play these two and they are also all-round support)



Ursa (LFY’s love, counter effect on Naix&Jugg, which IGV’s love)



//END, tired to translate such paper, more tire reading it cuz you need to think a lot. But it’s really really amazing when I watched the live match, comparing with the broadcaster’s bullshit guess.



//At last, for convenience, actual B/P for these two matches.





At the beginning, I have to tell all content below is translated from a Chinese analyst who put his prediction on Weibo( Chinese twitter). I’m amazed by his prediction and I’ve checked that this prediction was made at least one hour before the match took place. The original paper could be found at http://weibo.com/ttarticle/p/show?id=2309404036589771715515 . And the match ID of the two matches are 2746089041 and 2746159407.And here comes full translation of his paper. All my comments or introduction would be put after “//“.Title"All data offered by “belief data” //LOL, it should be an ad.I would like to divide the whole B/P period into two periods. 1-8 mainly serve banning opponents hot heroes, pick key heroes. And 9-20 would be make-up for previous picks or counter pick on opponents. Usually, main predictions(actually how pro team make preparation) would be on 1-8, since 9-20 could vary too much and 9-20 depend a lot on 1-8. So now, we try to predict the 1-8 on LFY vs IG.V. //omg, I really can’t translate some phrases, it’s too oral. But main idea of this paragraph is “1-8 prediction is important, 9-20 prediction is impossible and meaningless”. Btw, seems that 1-8 means first two bans and first two picks of both teams. 9-20 are the remaining.Considering first pick or not, prediction on 1-8 won’t be distinguished by ban or pick, it would be in mixed form.(e.g If I’m first pick, I won’t ban hot heroes. If opponent doesn’t ban, then I will pick it).Anyway, what’s important for 1-8 is that they are premier options in this game. //explain why he can’t predict concisely what heroes would be banned and what would be picked in 1-8. I think we can skip this para.//What’s real comes now!!!First we check carry position. No hot heroes for carry position in this version, and it would be easily countered if we pick carry too early. Plus two carry players don’t like to play functional heroes, thus there won’t be any carry heroes in 1-8. //functional heroes should be things like silencer, vs, etc.Then it’s turn for mid player. First we should take a look on what they usually take.Upper one is hero pool for LFY mid player, the other for IGV. It’s obvious that OD should be one of the “key heroes”. Both are playing well with good statistics and pick a lot. //the statistics are basically in Chinese, and I can’t understand some of them. So no translations here.Then jugg. If we pick jugg in 1-8 it may be easily countered by pick like sven or lyc, but jugg could played as carry as well as mid. Thus we put jugg in reservations.Timbersaw would be put in reservations, just as jugg.Now comes offlane.Still, upper one for LFY.Sooooo obvious that SK/BAT/SG are hot heroes for both teams. However, three heroes are too much to ban. And these three heroes perform really good at offlane if one support could go with them(BAT could even solo safe lane). Under this condition, carry player may receive great pressure(and both carry players play really really important role in their teams). Hence, these three heroes are not likely to be banned but could be picked. We still put these three heroes in reservations.At last, supports.Still ,upper two for LFY.Position 4 and position 5 player may change their roles, and the division on hero pool is fuzzy. So I put them together.First, xiao8’s played enigma so many times with so high win rate, theoretically IGV should ban it. However IGV’s silencer also appeared so many times with high win rate. Then it would be possible that IGV release enigma, and be prepared to pick silencer. Therefore, I guess enigma and silencer would be neglected in 1-8. They may play around it during 9-20.Earth spirit, may be picked in 1-8, an all-round hero which could collaborate with anyone.//actually this hero is forgotten in final conclusion, don’t know why.Meanwhile, IGV plays invisible heroes a lot, SA and BH. LFY also plays them. One option would be each team ban one of them. It is also possible one team ban one of them, release another one. If you pick invisible hero, them I will have three heroes at your safelane. //not sure if you can understand author’s idea, hard to translate :DConclusion:Summing up all together, and considering the collaborations and counters between heroes, I predict what will appear in 1-8:OD, SK, SG, BAT, SA, BH, JUGGDisruptor, Rubick (both teams play these two and they are also all-round support)Ursa (LFY’s love, counter effect on Naix&Jugg, which IGV’s love)//END, tired to translate such paper, more tire reading it cuz you need to think a lot. But it’s really really amazing when I watched the live match, comparing with the broadcaster’s bullshit guess.//At last, for convenience, actual B/P for these two matches.