by Luminesa » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:59 pm

The Batorys wrote: Conserative Morality wrote: Not all Wehrmacht members were fervent Nazis, but you'll have to forgive me for not respecting the Nazi war machine. Same with the CSA. Not all Wehrmacht members were fervent Nazis, but you'll have to forgive me for not respecting the Nazi war machine. Same with the CSA.

Exactly.



I grow tired of our society treating the CSA with kid gloves.



Monuments to their leaders are no more appropriate than monuments to the leaders of the Third Reich would be. Exactly.I grow tired of our society treating the CSA with kid gloves.Monuments to their leaders are no more appropriate than monuments to the leaders of the Third Reich would be.

actually

I'm not respecting any sort of war machine. I'm simply explaining that history is a lot more grey than people like to explain it to be, and that both sides of any war have some awful villains. And anyway, I don't think society has EVER treated the CSA with "kid-gloves". I'm not sure what region you're from, but even down here in the South, in many places it's not treated with "kid-gloves".Look. I'm all for progressing society to make it less racist. I'm all for multiculturalism and all that jazz. It's one of the things I find so beautiful about New Orleans, how unique it is. How it tells the stories of so many cultures. I'm willing to make concessions and to accept when I might be wrong. If taking down these statues and putting them in a museum isshown to work, in the near-future, okay. My concern is in making actual progress in society, in actually helping the people who need it, and in doing it in long-term ways. I look at most of modern politics, and I don't see very many politicians making decisions that help their communities in the long-run. I want results that bring a peace that will last.The way I am seeing it, New Orleans has been politically and socially in turmoil for a very long time, and some long-term socioeconomic stability and peace is in high-order in the area, if it wants to recover from such chaos. Therefore, I am simply uncertain of where removing these statues would cause such a peace. Or if it would even be a stepping stone toward such a peace. If I am proven wrong, however, I am proven wrong. We will see, and I don't say that in a way as to indicate I'm waiting to be proven right. I'm actually curious to see how this will work, despite my doubts.