Ms.Galaxy Originally Posted by Boogie, I feel, is someone who has a legit fear of being hated and does anything to please everyone.

Seventy70 Originally Posted by



https://youtu.be/54uSD67M-Zo?t=40s



"I had a friend named Matt who was always making fun of me for being fat."



"One day I had enough and I cornered him and asked him, "Why are you always making fun of me! Why are you always making me feel bad!"



"I stopped hanging out with Matt."



LOL



From his description, as shitty as Matt was being, he had good intentions. Yet, that was enough for him to stop hanging out with him. You can't even say the same for JonTron. So, Boogie grows has a spine when it's about body shaming, but when it comes to being a flat out racist, then it's just "trying out ideas" He acts like such a nice guy, but it's quite obvious he's just being willfully ignorant at this point. You can play a nice guy act with the most evil person if you wanted. It doesn't make it valid though."I had a friend named Matt who was always making fun of me for being fat.""One day I had enough and I cornered him and asked him, "Why are you always making fun of me! Why are you always making me feel bad!""I stopped hanging out with Matt."From his description, as shitty as Matt was being, he had good intentions. Yet, that was enough for him to stop hanging out with him. You can't even say the same for JonTron.

Seventy70 Originally Posted by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54uSD67M-Zo

If the hypocrisy wasn't enough, here's some more from that video:



"Unfortunately for me, Matt's not the only person that does that. Every time I log on to the internet, there's someone making fun of fat people--Facebook, Reddit, every time I watch one of my favorite shows, every time I see a photoshopped image of someone who looks impossibly skinny and I realize that I'm not apart of that exclusive club of young, hip, attractive, beautiful, skinny people. In fact, I'm apart of a completely different group that gets made fun of every day and gets mocked and gets tortured and gets shamed."



"Maybe I will figure out what wrong in my head to make me do this to myself and maybe I will. Maybe I will lose the weight or maybe I will die fat and young. But, I'll tell you what, your hate-filled bullshit isn't going to make a difference either way."



And, of course, this is the description of the video:



"SHARE THIS VIDEO: if you are overweight or you love someone who is, please EDUCATE THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU about the pain shaming causes and about the endless cycle it creates. I would love to make a difference."



....I just don't know what to say. If the hypocrisy wasn't enough, here's some more from that video:"Unfortunately for me, Matt's not the only person that does that. Every time I log on to the internet, there's someone making fun of fat people--Facebook, Reddit, every time I watch one of my favorite shows, every time I see a photoshopped image of someone who looks impossibly skinny and I realize that I'm not apart of thatof young, hip, attractive, beautiful, skinny people. In fact, I'm apart of athat gets madeevery day and getsand gets tortured and gets.""Maybe I will figure out what wrong in my head to make me do this to myself and maybe I will. Maybe I will lose the weight or maybe I will die fat and young. But, I'll tell you what, your hate-filledisn't going to make a difference either way."And, of course, this is the description of the video:"SHARE THIS VIDEO: if you are overweight or you love someone who is, please EDUCATE THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU about the pain shaming causes and about the endless cycle it creates. I would love to make a difference."....I just don't know what to say.

Chris Ticehurst Originally Posted by



Gee he flipflops and tends to say things to please everyone. It's shocking sometimes Gee he flipflops and tends to say things to please everyone. It's shocking sometimes

That's exactly what Boogie2988 says in his Jontron defense video. He says that he relies on Youtube money for his mortgage and doesn't want to piss off anyone who could take that away. He mentions that the other people he defends are independent, they can make money off other things, but he can't so he has to tow the line."These are the same people who came at me 2.5 years ago. That made me step back. You know what, I don't want to die on this hill. This is not something I want to end my career over. I have a mortgage to pay. I'm not going to get other job offers like Colin. I'm not always going to be able to be independent like Jon. I won't be a multi-millionaire like Felix. And be ok. And run my own corporation. I'm just some fat shit in a corner of Arkansaw trying to pay his rent...now paying his mortgage...now trying to pay his medical bills and stay alive. Maybe there is a better way for me. Maybe I will just play with my Pokemon cards. Maybe I'll let those people be outraged at whoever else they want to be outraged with. And while I do that, I can always try to preach a sense of moderation. A sense of free thinking. A sense of figuring things out for yourself. Of being speculative and being suspicious of the things you hear and the things that you see. And to try to encourage people to stop being so far left, stop being so far right, and find the place in the middle.People who watch this video up to this point or even cut it off 2 minutes in, are using this video as an excuse to try to do that to me. 'Oh he's defending Jon, he's defending an anti-semite, defending a sexist asshole'. And I am. I AM. Because where I don't agree with their opinions, I believe they have every right to their opinions. I believe they have every right to think for themselves and try to feel out. And the problem with the freedom of thought is, sometimes people are gonna think things you don't like. People are going to have opinions and ideas that you don't enjoy. And you have to treat that with a certain level of tolerance and understanding. Because if you approach it with tolerance and understanding, you might very well be able to convince that person otherwise. I do plan to have a conversation with Jon if you allow me to and maybe we'll talk about the stuff. Maybe I'll learn from him, and he'll learn from me, and we'll land somewhere in the middle. Wouldn't that be swell? Because the middle is a great place to be! And people say, you won't stand up for what you believe in, you won't stand up for what you care about, but you know what damnit I stand on this hill! And I'll die on this hill! THIS IS THE ONE I WILL STAND UP FOR! There's no such thing as wrong think. There is no such thing as a wrong opinion. I think it's ok to have whatever shitty opinion you have. And it's the best way to treat someone with a shitty opinion - one that might be morally and objectively wrong - is to try to talk to them, to treat them like a person, to treat them like you care about them, to treat them moderately and maybe with respect and talk to them and try to convince them. Because I'll tell you something. The studies show when you fight someone's beliefs, it only strengthens their beliefs and convictions. You can't change somebody's mind with hate. You can only change somebody's mind with love."But this centrism creates opportunities where he comes off as a hypocrite. Examples: