monk Profile Joined May 2009 United States 1140 Posts #1



monk, Trump, StrifeCro, Koyuki, Razor, ChanmanV.



A few of us are a bit busy with a few things, but we'll try our best to answer to the best of our ability. Still, if you direct your answer to all of us or ask a more general question, you're much more likely to get an answer. Hey, now's your chance to ask the members of Liquid Value anything you want ranging from strategy and decks to gaming history to how we like our coffee. For those of you who are keeping track, the current active members of Liquid Value include:monk, Trump, StrifeCro, Koyuki, Razor, ChanmanV.A few of us are a bit busy with a few things, but we'll try our best to answer to the best of our ability. Still, if you direct your answer to all of us or ask a more general question, you're much more likely to get an answer.

S_SienZ Profile Joined September 2011 293 Posts Last Edited: 2014-03-26 05:25:00 #2 What's the most viable Paladin deck in the current format? Highlighting its key cards and combos, aside from the equality ones.



jcroisdale Profile Joined October 2010 United States 62 Posts #3 What do you guys think of hunter agro? Many people find it a "brain-dead" class. Do you think its too easy to play and rewards bad play, like giving up board control for a better UTH play? "I think bringing a toddler to a movie theater is a terrible idea. They are too young to understand what is happening it would be like giving your toddler acid. Bad idea." - Sinensis

Drazerk Profile Joined September 2010 United Kingdom 4372 Posts #4 How do you like your coffee?

OGBerM Profile Joined December 2012 United States 51 Posts #5 What's a legend-rank evaluation of Forsen's Ramp Druid deck that he used in fightnight and on ladder? Do you think this deck could be extremely strong, as it has many answers, many threats, and is at least service-able vs aggro/face decks? What would you change in the deck for ladder?



(I would love if Cong could take a crack at this first but anyone is welcome to chime in; I'm looking for a different, fun deck to play at the legend ranks.)

Jinault Profile Joined February 2014 Ireland 54 Posts Last Edited: 2014-03-26 19:09:36 #6 - Around how many 1, 2, 3 and 4 drops are needed in a control deck so you have enough cards to play early game?



- How can I best adapt tournament decklists to suit ladder play?

koyuki0 Profile Joined December 2013 8 Posts #7 @S_SienZ: I do not believe there is a viable Paladin deck for laddering. That said, it is still possible to see a reasonable amount of success with non-giant control in some form (since it can badly wreck warrior control and still fight with the aggro decks) though the best laddering Paladin deck is probably aggro divine favor. Giants are likely still viable for matchplay as well. Key cards for all paladin decks are cards like truesilver champion, the mass removal/equality pieces, and divine favor in the aggro deck.



@ Jcroisdale: I think the aggro hunter gets a bad rap. When played best by a top player it's not a brainless deck at all. However, the prevalence of people who simply go for the face on the ladder combined with how forgiving the deck is mean that the skill required to get reasonable (but not optimal) results is lower than other decks. It's also one of the decks that most punishes misplays by the opponent and also least rewards accurate play by the opponent. The short is: it's not a brain-dead class, but you can certainly play it that way and get reasonable results.



@Drazerl: I don't drink coffee, but I'm sure some of the others do.

mikeymoo Profile Joined October 2006 Canada 107 Posts #8 Well since there are 6 of you...

Fuck/marry/kill/eat/adopt the other 5? Pick one for each. o_x | Ow. | 1003 ESPORTS dollars | If you have any questions about bans please PM Kennigit

VictorVector Profile Joined June 2012 United States 7 Posts Last Edited: 2014-03-26 19:46:20 #9 3 questions.

1. Will Liquid Value be participating in the next ESGN Fight Night Season 7 & 8?

2. Will Team Liquid pickup Liquid Value as their Hearthstone team?

3. Fuck, Marry, Kill, Eat, Adopt (Credit: mikeymoo): Artosis, ek0p, Gnimsh, Nyhx, Savjz Talk is cheap. Bitching is expensive.

monk Profile Joined May 2009 United States 1140 Posts Last Edited: 2014-03-26 21:49:22 #10 On March 26 2014 14:24 S_SienZ wrote:

What's the most viable Paladin deck in the current format? Highlighting its key cards and combos, aside from the equality ones.



Any forms of Control Paladin just struggle too much in the Aggro matchups. The Divine Favor Boulderfist Ogre Boulderfist Ogre



Any forms of Control Paladin just struggle too much in the Aggro matchups. The On March 26 2014 17:31 jcroisdale wrote:

What do you guys think of hunter agro? Many people find it a "brain-dead" class. Do you think its too easy to play and rewards bad play, like giving up board control for a better UTH play?

I think Hunter takes a lot more skill than the average person might think. Obviously, an average player can play Hunter and get a lot of success with it, which is probably where the bad reputation of Hunter comes from. However, these days, a lot of the top players are playing it from a slightly more control aspect, which is reflected in the fact that Bluegill Charger is being cut from many lists.



I think Hunter takes a lot more skill than the average person might think. Obviously, an average player can play Hunter and get a lot of success with it, which is probably where the bad reputation of Hunter comes from. However, these days, a lot of the top players are playing it from a slightly more control aspect, which is reflected in the fact that Bluegill Charger is being cut from many lists. On March 26 2014 22:26 Drazerk wrote:

How do you like your coffee?

Very White, for a medium coffee something like 2 things of skim milk and 2 sweet and lows.



Very White, for a medium coffee something like 2 things of skim milk and 2 sweet and lows. On March 27 2014 02:00 OGBerM wrote:

What's a legend-rank evaluation of Forsen's Ramp Druid deck that he used in fightnight and on ladder? Do you think this deck could be extremely strong, as it has many answers, many threats, and is at least service-able vs aggro/face decks? What would you change in the deck for ladder?



(I would love if Cong could take a crack at this first but anyone is welcome to chime in; I'm looking for a different, fun deck to play at the legend ranks.)

Don't have enough experience with the deck to answer this one.



Don't have enough experience with the deck to answer this one. On March 27 2014 02:53 Jinault wrote:

- Around how many 1, 2, 3 and 4 drops are needed in a control deck so you have enough cards to play early game?



- How can I best adapt tournament decklists to suit ladder play?

1 Drops aren't really needed in Control decks. And in the extreme example, Handlock, you don't even need 2 or 3 drops (Watchers, Sunfuries, and Farseer



However, if you look in the standard more mid-range/control decks:

Druid: Watcher(2), Sunfury(2), Harvest Golem(3), Yeti(4), Keeper(4), Argus(4)

Shaman: Squire(1), Unbound(3), Wolves(3), Kinda Mana Tide(3), Yeti/Senjin/Gnomish(4), Argus(4)

Warrior: Armorsmith(2), Cruel Taskmaster(2), Axe(2), Frothing(3), Kinda Acolyte(3), Senjin/Yeti(4)



That should give you an idea of the distribution you need. What I've learned however, is that you don't want to necessarily overload on low drops. For example, take a look at Innervate



As for adapting decks, you really have to have an understand the deck and figure out what are the "flex" spots in each deck. I'll use Druid, Shaman, Warrior, and Handlock as examples again. Here are the flex spots found in these decks.

Watcher Druid: BGH Black Knight Ragnaros

Shaman: Lava Brust, Doomhammer Ooze Gnomish Inventor Yeti Windfury

Warrior: 2nd Slam Ysera Black Knight Yeti BGH

Handlock: Voidwalker Cairne Ragnaros Alexstraza



So your steps for adapting a ladder deck:

1. Figure out what the flex spots in your deck are

2. Identify what's common on ladder, what you're struggling with on ladder.

3. Identify what card could help you in that matchup. One card can shore up a particular matchup a lot.

4. Change that flex spot!



1 Drops aren't really needed in Control decks. And in the extreme example, Handlock, you don't even need 2 or 3 drops (Watchers, Sunfuries, andHowever, if you look in the standard more mid-range/control decks:Druid: Watcher(2), Sunfury(2), Harvest Golem(3), Yeti(4), Keeper(4), Argus(4)Shaman: Squire(1), Unbound(3), Wolves(3), Kinda Mana Tide(3), Yeti/Senjin/Gnomish(4), Argus(4)Warrior: Armorsmith(2), Cruel Taskmaster(2), Axe(2), Frothing(3), Kinda Acolyte(3), Senjin/Yeti(4)That should give you an idea of the distribution you need. What I've learned however, is that you don't want to necessarily overload on low drops. For example, take a look at Strifecro's Warrior deck here. It's a deck that Liquid Value developed for Fight Night months ago, but illustrates overloading on low drops. It's a more mid-range Warrior deck than what is standard these days, but often, you would have an extremely clogged up hand in the mid/late game. And unlike Druid who hasAs for adapting decks, you really have to have an understand the deck and figure out what are the "flex" spots in each deck. I'll use Druid, Shaman, Warrior, and Handlock as examples again. Here are the flex spots found in these decks.Watcher Druid:Shaman: Lava Brust,Warrior: 2ndHandlock:So your steps for adapting a ladder deck:1. Figure out what the flex spots in your deck are2. Identify what's common on ladder, what you're struggling with on ladder.3. Identify what card could help you in that matchup. One card can shore up a particular matchup a lot.4. Change that flex spot! On March 27 2014 04:45 VictorVector wrote:

3 questions.

1. Will Liquid Value be participating in the next ESGN Fight Night Season 7 & 8?

2. Will Team Liquid pickup Liquid Value as their Hearthstone team?

3. Fuck, Marry, Kill, Eat, Adopt (Credit: mikeymoo): Artosis, ek0p, Gnimsh, Nyhx, Savjz

1. Possibly

2. Possibly

3. Fuck (Razor/Ekop)

Marry (Savjz/Chanman)

Kill (Koyuki/Gnimsh)

Eat (StrifeCro/Artosis)

Adopt (Trump/Nyhx)



Sorry to all of those I killed or ate. 1. Possibly2. Possibly3. Fuck (Razor/Ekop)Marry (Savjz/Chanman)Kill (Koyuki/Gnimsh)Eat (StrifeCro/Artosis)Adopt (Trump/Nyhx)Sorry to all of those I killed or ate.

Jinault Profile Joined February 2014 Ireland 54 Posts #11 Thanks monk!

koyuki0 Profile Joined December 2013 8 Posts #12 damn, monk killed me. FRIENDSHIP OVER (i probably deserved it though)

Waxangel Profile Joined September 2002 United States 59 Posts #13 why did ESGN cut you for fightnight S5 despite you being the winners of S4 Hey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?

monk Profile Joined May 2009 United States 1140 Posts #14 We weren't cool enough.

Ovid Profile Joined October 2013 United Kingdom 2337 Posts #15 On March 27 2014 06:18 monk wrote:

We weren't cool enough.



But you are head baller of the hearthstone world?

But you are head baller of the hearthstone world? I will make Yogg Saron priest work...

Waxangel Profile Joined September 2002 United States 59 Posts #16 are you sure it's not because of racism? Hey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?

8mmspikes Profile Joined January 2012 United States 33 Posts #17 Will Liquid Value be made an official Team Liquid team? :o Suppy fan | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ WELL MET ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ | http://www.twitter.com/8mmspikes

Ovid Profile Joined October 2013 United Kingdom 2337 Posts #18 I've appointed each of you as the balance designer of hearthstone.

Your first task is to bring priest into heel and make it a solid and viable class.

What would your approach be in changing the class (Changing the Hero power, making the class cards more solid and less combo dependant, adding more class card draw)



If you had to change your name by depol what would you change your name to and why?

IE Max POWER! (Added caveat has to be something wacky)





I will make Yogg Saron priest work...

VictorVector Profile Joined June 2012 United States 7 Posts Last Edited: 2014-03-26 21:31:17 #19 1. Possibly

2. Possibly

3. Fuck (Razor/Artosis)

Marry (Savjz/Chanman)

Kill (Koyuki/Gnimsh)

Eat (StrifeCro/Artosis)

Adopt (Trump/Nyhx)



MONK You forgot ekop!!! MONK You forgot ekop!!! Talk is cheap. Bitching is expensive.

DJHelium Profile Joined December 2010 Sweden 73 Posts #20 Hi guys!



To Trump: Your stream is one of the bigger ones on twitch, often getting 15k+ viewers. Do you earn more money from donations or from ad revenue?



To everyone: What is your favourite card and why?



To entire team: Are you looking for new members? What would be my best way to go about it if I want to join Liquid Value?



Also I want to say that I really enjoy your stream Trump. Being an EU resident it's my stream to go to fall asleep to (and that is a good thing :D ). I like your youtube vids too.



Cheers! #1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium

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