MAHA : Zaynab came the next day, and her father and Karim went somewhere else and I never [saw] them again.

ZAYNAB : They were going shopping and I was going out with them. I don't know who was doing what, and my mother said, "Get out, go," and we said, "Mom wait." She's like, "No, go finish your work. Go, let me finish my work." We're like, "Mom, you're kicking us out," and she's like, "Yes, I'm kicking you out, now go."

MAHA : Yes. Actually, I asked them to leave the house because they were making so much -- I don't want to remember because it was a sad day. I'm a very hyper person. I like things to be done as fast as possible, and they're very slow getting ready, and I can't do my work because they're all over the place

So if we could start, Maha with you, when was the last time you saw your husband and Karim? Were they together?

A Canadian of Palestinian descent, Maha Elsamnah is the wife of Ahmed Said Khadr and the mother of Abdurahman Khadr. Zaynab Khadr is her daughter. In this interview, the two discuss the allegations against their family members. They deny that the family was ever officially a part of Al Qaeda but admit they are sympathetic to the organization. They also say they are proud that Ahmed Said Khadr died as a martyr for Islam and express their frustration with U.S. involvement in the Middle East. In April 2004, Maha returned to Canada to seek medical treatment for her youngest son Abdul Karim, who was paralyzed in the attack that killed his father. Zaynab still lives in Pakistan. This interview was conducted on Feb. 22, 2004.