GOING TO THE FTC The Leader of Gamergate 11/03/14 (Mon) 11:35:04 ID: d2556e No.393088  [Last 50 Posts][Watch Thread] ID:



https://archive.today/sYR6v



Copy-paste from Old Thread OP



It's not just unethical for reviewers and bloggers to not disclose payments, gifts, or free services it is ILLEGAL Let's discuss how to document these abuses and report them to the FTC.





>The revised Guides also add new examples to illustrate the long standing principle that “material connections” (sometimes payments or free products) between advertisers and endorsers – connections that consumers would not expect – must be disclosed. These examples address what constitutes an endorsement when the message is conveyed by bloggers or other “word-of-mouth” marketers. The revised Guides specify that while decisions will be reached on a case-by-case basis, the post of a blogger who receives cash or in-kind payment to review a product is considered an endorsement. Thus, bloggers who make an endorsement must disclose the material connections they share with the seller of the product or service.



http://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2009/10/ftc-publishes-final-guides-governing-endorsements-testimonials



http://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/federal_register_notices/guides-concerning-use-endorsements-and-testimonials-advertising-16-cfr-part-255/091015guidesconcerningtestimonials.pdf

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No. 377027: The FTC primarily operates off of consumer complaints for violation discovery. We need to find the violations and report them to the FTC. They also give more credence to violations reported by multiple people. It is our duty as responsible consumers to find the violations and report them.



Here is the link to file a report.



https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#crnt&panel1-1

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No. 377126: Because of who I am and what I do, I really can't get involved. But I will leave you with this bit of information. Look at 16 CFR 255.5 in the guide listed for download in the thread.



Specifically the example used is as follows: Example 7: A college student who has earned a reputation as a video game expert maintains a personal weblog or ‘‘blog’’ where he posts entries about his gaming experiences. Readers of his blog frequently seek his opinions about video game hardware and software. As it has done in the past, the manufacturer of a newly released video game system sends the student a free copy of the system and asks him to write about it on his blog. He tests the new gaming system and writes a favorable review. Because his review is disseminated via a form of consumer-generated media in which his relationship to the advertiser is not inherently obvious, readers are unlikely to know that he has received the video game system free of charge in exchange for his review of the product, and given the value of the video game system, this fact likely would materially affect the credibility they attach to his endorsement. Accordingly, the blogger should clearly and conspicuously disclose that he received the gaming system free of charge. The manufacturer should advise him at the time it provides the gaming system that this connection should be disclosed, and it should have procedures in place to try to monitor his postings for compliance.

_ Why the hell did this not get replacement thread?It's not just unethical for reviewers and bloggers to not disclose payments, gifts, or free services it isLet's discuss how to document these abuses and report them to the FTC.No. 377027: The FTC primarily operates off of consumer complaints for violation discovery. We need to find the violations and report them to the FTC. They also give more credence to violations reported by multiple people. It is our duty as responsible consumers to find the violations and report them.Here is the link to file a report.No. 377126: Because of who I am and what I do, I really can't get involved. But I will leave you with this bit of information. Look at 16 CFR 255.5 in the guide listed for download in the thread.Specifically the example used is as follows: Example 7: A college student who has earned a reputation as a video game expert maintains a personal weblog or ‘‘blog’’ where he posts entries about his gaming experiences. Readers of his blog frequently seek his opinions about video game hardware and software. As it has done in the past, the manufacturer of a newly released video game system sends the student a free copy of the system and asks him to write about it on his blog. He tests the new gaming system and writes a favorable review. Because his review is disseminated via a form of consumer-generated media in which his relationship to the advertiser is not inherently obvious, readers are unlikely to know that he has received the video game system free of charge in exchange for his review of the product, and given the value of the video game system, this fact likely would materially affect the credibility they attach to his endorsement. Accordingly, the blogger should clearly and conspicuously disclose that he received the gaming system free of charge. The manufacturer should advise him at the time it provides the gaming system that this connection should be disclosed, and it should have procedures in place to try to monitor his postings for compliance.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/03/14 (Mon) 12:06:43 ID: f631ed No.393235 ID: I think this seems like a good idea but perhaps we should wait untill the GG Press Kit is finished.



That would give us something profesional to pass their way

The Leader of Gamergate 11/03/14 (Mon) 12:21:49 ID: b775fc No.393295 ID: This has been known for a while op. Fact is, do we trust the FTC to do a good job investigating this shit? If the FTC investigates and finds proof of corruption great! If they don't or won't, gamergate gets it's legs cut off, because then the journos can simply point to it and say that the FTC finds them innocent. Going to the FTC is a finishing move, scorched earth action. It's an all-or-nothing. Keep that card up our sleeves.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/03/14 (Mon) 12:23:25 ID: 8b1639 No.393302 ID: Polygon's review of Gone Homo and the GOTY award they gave it should be a slam dunk IMO.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/03/14 (Mon) 12:30:27 ID: dd909d No.393322 ID: (hide) : File 1415017826916.jpg (156.08 KB, 592x369, 592:369, zoe costanza.jpg BUMP THIS SHIT BUMP THIS SHIT BUMP THIS SHIT BUMP THIS SHIT BUMP THIS SHIT BUMP THIS SHIT BUMP THIS SHIT BUMP THIS SHIT BUMP THIS SHIT BUMP THIS SHIT

The Leader of Gamergate 11/03/14 (Mon) 14:23:40 ID: 631d08 No.393800 ID: If we go through with this its a certain win.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/03/14 (Mon) 14:29:38 ID: 85b5f6 No.393829 ID: (hide) : File 1415024978380.png (234.7 KB, 508x382, 254:191, 76577777775.png I'd wait until the press kit is done. Seems like a very risky move at the moment

The Leader of Gamergate 11/03/14 (Mon) 17:22:02 ID: a5a8bf No.394762 >>395004 ID: also any word from fit lawyer yet?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/03/14 (Mon) 17:38:12 ID: bf310b No.394913 >>399284>>399873 ID: QUITE FRANKLY WHY THE FUCK IS THIS NOT STICKIED???



MODS, STOP SNIFFING GLUE AND GET THIS SHIT UP THERE, AT LEAST REPLACE THAT FUCKING MOJO JOJO THREAD

The Leader of Gamergate 11/03/14 (Mon) 17:47:35 ID: 0fba7b No.395004 >>395037 ID: >>394762



It's out of his expertise apparently. It's out of his expertise apparently.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/03/14 (Mon) 17:50:31 ID: a5a8bf No.395037 ID: >>395004

well can he direct us to one of his lawyer buddies that might know this shit? well can he direct us to one of his lawyer buddies that might know this shit?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/03/14 (Mon) 23:31:56 ID: 3c2db5 No.398416 >>398464>>399505>>399557>>402796 ID: (hide) : File 1415057516913.jpg (31.67 KB, 800x551, 800:551, 1413236838148.jpg



Class Action



Have you been harmed by illegal reporting? Fuck yes you have. Any undisclosed impartiality of the jurnos weather internal or external is market manipulation. As a consumer if this affected your purchasing decision you have been harmed. This is pretty much anything that qualifies as an FTC violation and more. Again the standard of proof we need is only probable cause we don't need definitive proof to get the ball rolling although it couldn't hurt. Once the lawsuit starts there is a process called discovery where in we show the opposition all the evidence we have on them and then we get to dig into there records. We get full access to all there emails accounting we can even force third parties to disclose pertinent information. Discovery is where the deep investigation happens.

A somewhat similar case to study is the lintel debacle where they manipulated media to make Pentium 4 appear better than it was.



https://www.intelpentium4litigation.com/



One thing to note, almost always after discovery comes the settlement process. The parties to the case knowing the evidence both parties has tries to come to a resolution usually money some pay off is offered and the company does not admit guilt and the documents are sealed. We do not want a settlement, we want it to go to court, we want a ruling and all the pertinent documents become court records which are placed in the public domain.



The very nature of class actions makes it so many law firms will represent the class with no money up front and they only get paid if the law suit succeeds. FTC actions would probably not put much f the corruption in the public domain but a law suit definatly could. Our initial research could be applied to both legal actions.





Also please sticky this fucking thread this shit is important! The FTC is not our only recourse.Have you been harmed by illegal reporting? Fuck yes you have. Any undisclosed impartiality of the jurnos weather internal or external is market manipulation. As a consumer if this affected your purchasing decision you have been harmed. This is pretty much anything that qualifies as an FTC violation and more. Again the standard of proof we need is only probable cause we don't need definitive proof to get the ball rolling although it couldn't hurt. Once the lawsuit starts there is a process called discovery where in we show the opposition all the evidence we have on them and then we get to dig into there records. We get full access to all there emails accounting we can even force third parties to disclose pertinent information. Discovery is where the deep investigation happens.A somewhat similar case to study is the lintel debacle where they manipulated media to make Pentium 4 appear better than it was.One thing to note, almost always after discovery comes the settlement process. The parties to the case knowing the evidence both parties has tries to come to a resolution usually money some pay off is offered and the company does not admit guilt and the documents are sealed. We do not want a settlement, we want it to go to court, we want a ruling and all the pertinent documents become court records which are placed in the public domain.The very nature of class actions makes it so many law firms will represent the class with no money up front and they only get paid if the law suit succeeds. FTC actions would probably not put much f the corruption in the public domain but a law suit definatly could. Our initial research could be applied to both legal actions.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/03/14 (Mon) 23:39:11 ID: a5a8bf No.398464 ID: >>398416

seconded seconded

The Leader of Gamergate 11/03/14 (Mon) 23:49:37 ID: d98623 No.398573 ID: bump

The Leader of Gamergate 11/03/14 (Mon) 23:52:21 ID: 8fa164 No.398594 ID: Why isn't this a sticky?



This is a great way to go! Let's dig information, spread awareness about it and report whatever violations of those rules we find.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 00:33:24 ID: 1355a8 No.399068 ID: bump for class action lawsuit

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 00:36:33 ID: 66fe75 No.399114 ID: Your bot is dumb and is spamming a topic that could actually screw you retards over.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 00:52:42 ID: de8697 No.399302 ID: (hide) : File 1415062362252.jpg (72.03 KB, 800x600, 4:3, 78416-i-am-monitoring-this….jpg Hm. I like this.



Proceed.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 00:55:26 ID: 857103 No.399332 ID: >>393088 (OP)

oh we sticky now? good, spread this shit oh we sticky now? good, spread this shit

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 00:56:18 ID: 8ac9ad No.399339 ID: >>399284

Enable captcha please. I'm sure you've noticed the bots. Enable captcha please. I'm sure you've noticed the bots.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 00:57:49 ID: 85873d No.399356 >>399370 ID: >>393088 (OP)

We should also look into the collusion of these Journalist companies. I believe it violates anti-trust laws



http://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-antitrust-laws



There is a legal case here, whether its disclosing gifts, hiding advertisements/advertisers, or collusion. We just need to find the right case to unite under.



I believe the law is on the internet's side for once. We should also look into the collusion of these Journalist companies. I believe it violates anti-trust lawsThere is a legal case here, whether its disclosing gifts, hiding advertisements/advertisers, or collusion. We just need to find the right case to unite under.I believe the law is on the internet's side for once.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 00:58:58 ID: 8ac9ad No.399370 >>399388>>399424 ID: >>399356

Who is the plaintiff? Who is presented as the prosecuting party if we push forward with a lawsuit? Or is that not how class action suits work? Who is the plaintiff? Who is presented as the prosecuting party if we push forward with a lawsuit? Or is that not how class action suits work?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:01:20 ID: 85873d No.399388 >>399965>>408013 ID: >>399370

I'm not sure about class action suits, but I am sure there is some attorney on 8chan who would bat for us.



I am talking about reporting to the FTC, though. Regardless of how corrupt they are, I believe they thrive off of this sort of shit. They are always preying on something.



They will definitely look into gamergate. I'm not sure about class action suits, but I am sure there is some attorney on 8chan who would bat for us.I am talking about reporting to the FTC, though. Regardless of how corrupt they are, I believe they thrive off of this sort of shit. They are always preying on something.They will definitely look into gamergate.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:03:28 ID: 85873d No.399406 >>399449 ID: Class action suits usually just get us compensation and we settle. We want the FTC to fuck these people up.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:05:01 ID: 3c2db5 No.399424 >>408013 ID: >>399370



>The procedure for filing a class action is to file suit with one or several named plaintiffs on behalf of a proposed class. The proposed class must consist of a group of individuals or business entities that have suffered a common injury or injuries. Typically these cases result from an action on the part of a business or a particular product defect or policy that applied to all proposed class members in a typical manner. After the complaint is filed, the plaintiff must file a motion to have the class certified. In some cases class certification may require discovery in order to determine its size and if the proposed class meets the standard for class certification.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_action



So to start we pick a few individuals and find a law firm that will handle the case. There will probably be no cost to do this. So to start we pick a few individuals and find a law firm that will handle the case. There will probably be no cost to do this.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:07:55 ID: 3c2db5 No.399449 >>399470 ID: >>399406

NO NO NO NO NO we don't settle. We push it to court we get a ruling. This is the only way we get guilt assigned. This is the only way we get the evidence in the public domain. We don't settle. NO NO NO NO NO we don't settle. We push it to court we get a ruling. This is the only way we get guilt assigned. This is the only way we get the evidence in the public domain.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:10:26 ID: 85873d No.399470 >>400715 ID: >>399449

Exactly that's what I am saying. We should use a class action suit because those almost always end in settlements.



It is a better idea to let the FTC handle it, because then there is a federal agency backing us, rather than us being what they would probably call "soar losers" or some shit. Exactly that's what I am saying. We should use a class action suit because those almost always end in settlements.It is a better idea to let the FTC handle it, because then there is a federal agency backing us, rather than us being what they would probably call "soar losers" or some shit.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:12:52 ID: 85873d No.399496 ID:



http://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-antitrust-laws/antitrust-laws



I think we definitely have a solid anti-trust case "The Sherman Act outlaws "every contract, combination, or conspiracy in restraint of trade," and any "monopolization, attempted monopolization, or conspiracy or combination to monopolize." Long ago, the Supreme Court decided that the Sherman Act does not prohibit every restraint of trade, only those that are unreasonable. For instance, in some sense, an agreement between two individuals to form a partnership restrains trade, but may not do so unreasonably, and thus may be lawful under the antitrust laws. On the other hand, certain acts are considered so harmful to competition that they are almost always illegal. These include plain arrangements among competing individuals or businesses to fix prices, divide markets, or rig bids. These acts are "per se" violations of the Sherman Act; in other words, no defense or justification is allowed."I think we definitely have a solid anti-trust case

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:13:33 ID: dd909d No.399505 ID: >>398416

third this third this

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:19:19 ID: 2ba408 No.399556 >>399573>>401964 ID: >>393088 (OP)



Call your GOP senator or representative on Wednesday. Ask them if the FTC is looking into this, if not, would they help file a complaint?



You don't need a steenking lawyer, especially since a GOP majority in both houses means this this will start to get rolled back. Call your GOP senator or representative on Wednesday. Ask them if the FTC is looking into this, if not, would they help file a complaint?You don't need a steenking lawyer, especially since a GOP majority in both houses means this this will start to get rolled back.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:19:37 ID: 85873d No.399557 >>399593>>399680>>401881>>402796 ID: >>398416

Class Action, I believe, would give the opposition more ammunition against us and those suits can last for years before it even goes to trial. The FTC would make GamerGate official and refute all claims that it is dying, most likely bringing neutral parties on board.



A class Action just seems bitter to anyone outside of the issue. Class Action, I believe, would give the opposition more ammunition against us and those suits can last for years before it even goes to trial. The FTC would make GamerGate official and refute all claims that it is dying, most likely bringing neutral parties on board.A class Action just seems bitter to anyone outside of the issue.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:21:03 ID: 85873d No.399573 >>399580 ID: >>399556

Hell yeah dude I didn't even think of that!



I will definitely do this! If only we had thought of this prior to today. Would have made great political ammunition for them and brought lots of publicity! Hell yeah dude I didn't even think of that!I will definitely do this! If only we had thought of this prior to today. Would have made great political ammunition for them and brought lots of publicity!

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:22:24 ID: 2ba408 No.399580 >>399609 ID: >>399573



I think a lot of this SJW shit is just DNC GOTV stuff.



Some of us have friends on K Street too, but aside from Cato, a lot of SJW infestations. I think a lot of this SJW shit is just DNC GOTV stuff.Some of us have friends on K Street too, but aside from Cato, a lot of SJW infestations.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:23:40 ID: 8033dc No.399593 >>399618>>399632 ID: >>399557



The FTC would be the best case scenario I agree.



If they came down on this we'd be completely vindicated. The FTC would be the best case scenario I agree.If they came down on this we'd be completely vindicated.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:24:41 ID: 85873d No.399609 ID: >>399580

I have lots of connections within my state Republican Party. I could definitely get something going in Florida I have lots of connections within my state Republican Party. I could definitely get something going in Florida

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:25:25 ID: 276fd5 No.399618 >>405956 ID: (hide) : File 1415064325521.jpg (45.24 KB, 600x472, 75:59, 1001241_527008767369558_95….jpg >>399593



Just show me where to sign. Just show me where to sign.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:26:56 ID: 85873d No.399632 ID: >>399593

So now i think we need to organize and then get everyone of twitter and on FTC. So now i think we need to organize and then get everyone of twitter and on FTC.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:31:13 ID: 3c2db5 No.399680 >>399732 ID: >>399557

I cant disagree more. What ammunition would it give them? It would show the world that we are about ethics in journalism. Right now the only narrative 90% of the population receives is that we are an organisation for harassing women in gaming.



And this is not zero sum, let the FTC investigate while we do our own investigation with the class action.



The FTC is quiet by nature we need headlines that the class action will bring. And I really don't think us doing what we say we are about could loose us public support. I cant disagree more. What ammunition would it give them? It would show the world that we are about ethics in journalism. Right now the only narrative 90% of the population receives is that we are an organisation for harassing women in gaming.And this is not zero sum, let the FTC investigate while we do our own investigation with the class action.The FTC is quiet by nature we need headlines that the class action will bring. And I really don't think us doing what we say we are about could loose us public support.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:35:39 ID: 85873d No.399732 >>400778>>420344 ID: >>399680

That narrative will continue even if there is a class action suit. The suit will likely get no publicity, go on long after it's over, and will seem like a bitter move to those who are aware of the suit.



The FTC is a much better option given the reasons above. Not to mention they have the resources to pull it off.



And with a Republican Senate, we will be vindicated. That narrative will continue even if there is a class action suit. The suit will likely get no publicity, go on long after it's over, and will seem like a bitter move to those who are aware of the suit.The FTC is a much better option given the reasons above. Not to mention they have the resources to pull it off.And with a Republican Senate, we will be vindicated.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:41:10 ID: bc6d7a No.399793 ID: >>399743



It's stickied, what does saging even do?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:41:50 ID: 85873d No.399801 ID: Not sure how it happens, but it keeps a thread from being bumped up

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:43:40 ID: 7d7532 No.399818 ID: >>393088 (OP)

>Being American

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:48:50 ID: 276fd5 No.399872 >>399905 ID: (hide) : File 1415065730092.gif (963.82 KB, 400x293, 400:293, 2F584QJ.gif I guess we could always file a petition with the White House…lel

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:48:46 ID: 7b623a No.399873 ID: >>394913

>>399743



Someone needs to take care of this butthurt faggot. Someone needs to take care of this butthurt faggot.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:55:07 ID: 0d07e8 No.399965 >>400011 ID: >>399388

This. Plus what is the FTC filled with? Rich. White. Males. The epitome of what the femnazis hate. This. Plus what is the FTC filled with? Rich. White. Males. The epitome of what the femnazis hate.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:55:37 ID: 9c564b No.399971 ID: well we're at 5 stickies



guess we're going back to the days of 8



oh boy

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:58:21 ID: 85873d No.400011 >>400026 ID: >>399965

Haha! But they love government getting involved in shit it doesn't belong in… Imagine an age where the government sides with deep web dwellers against feminazis…



That will be the golden age Haha! But they love government getting involved in shit it doesn't belong in… Imagine an age where the government sides with deep web dwellers against feminazis…That will be the golden age

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 01:59:08 ID: 0d07e8 No.400026 >>400076 ID: >>400011

dubs prove golden age may surely be upon us dubs prove golden age may surely be upon us

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 02:03:54 ID: 177826 No.400080 >>400109 ID: >>393088 (OP)

So next step is mailing FTC ? That would be great. So next step is mailing FTC ? That would be great.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 02:06:26 ID: 85873d No.400109 >>400212>>400224 ID: >>400080

I think we need to decide on what allegations to go with first. The choice is advertisers (FTC Regulations) or Collusion (Anti-trust)/Sherman Act)



We should all gather our info and debate it. I think we need to decide on what allegations to go with first. The choice is advertisers (FTC Regulations) or Collusion (Anti-trust)/Sherman Act)We should all gather our info and debate it.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 02:17:41 ID: 2ef598 No.400212 >>400261 ID: >>400109



Honestly, if you guys really think you have something here, this is serious shit. I think you need to spend a lot more time than just "a couple of stickies" on this. Would taking this discussion to an IRC be okay with everyone? I think it would be a hell of a lot more productive and let us gather and examine all the facts we need. Honestly, if you guys really think you have something here, this is serious shit. I think you need to spend a lot more time than just "a couple of stickies" on this. Would taking this discussion to an IRC be okay with everyone? I think it would be a hell of a lot more productive and let us gather and examine all the facts we need.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 02:18:35 ID: f1780a No.400224 >>400261 ID: >>400109

I am going to have a livestream on election night. We can discuss it then. I am going to have a livestream on election night. We can discuss it then.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 02:21:26 ID: 85873d No.400261 >>400286 ID: >>400212

I'd prefer a google chat, but idk how others would feel about that.



>>400224

Where can I find this livestream? And I will probably participate I'd prefer a google chat, but idk how others would feel about that.Where can I find this livestream? And I will probably participate

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 02:22:41 ID: 85873d No.400272 ID: >>400258

You should make it a google hangout so others can join and we can have discourse for others to commentate on. I'm subscribing ;) You should make it a google hangout so others can join and we can have discourse for others to commentate on. I'm subscribing ;)

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 02:24:31 ID: 2ef598 No.400286 >>400331 ID: >>400261



Google Chat, IRC, doesn't really matter, whatever is fine with everyone else. If you want to have some kind of legal case, you need to carefully examine all evidence we gather, and an anonymous image board format is a fuck awful way of doing so. A realtime chat with registration would be a much, much more efficient way of getting a case together if you are all serious about this. Google Chat, IRC, doesn't really matter, whatever is fine with everyone else. If you want to have some kind of legal case, you need to carefully examine all evidence we gather, and an anonymous image board format is a fuck awful way of doing so. A realtime chat with registration would be a much, much more efficient way of getting a case together if you are all serious about this.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 02:28:31 ID: 85873d No.400331 >>400506>>400707 ID: >>400286

Whatever you think is best man. I'm just not too tech savvy and have little experience with IRC's. But I am willing to do whatever works best for the cause! Whatever you think is best man. I'm just not too tech savvy and have little experience with IRC's. But I am willing to do whatever works best for the cause!

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 02:44:55 ID: 2ef598 No.400506 >>400531 ID: >>400331



Weeell… I kinda am too, I threw that idea out there and hoped that someone would pick up on it. I'm not well versed into how to set up IRCs or run them, and I don't even have a Google account. Weeell… I kinda am too, I threw that idea out there and hoped that someone would pick up on it. I'm not well versed into how to set up IRCs or run them, and I don't even have a Google account.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 02:47:38 ID: 85873d No.400531 ID: >>400506

Google Hangout is good because of the cloud functionality. We could create a Google Doc Plan which is a word doc that everyone contributes to, and we could do a live hangout stream that would broadcast on youtube. Either of these are plausible. I'm am pretty well versed with google, so you could make an account and i'll hit you up. Google Hangout is good because of the cloud functionality. We could create a Google Doc Plan which is a word doc that everyone contributes to, and we could do a live hangout stream that would broadcast on youtube. Either of these are plausible. I'm am pretty well versed with google, so you could make an account and i'll hit you up.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 03:02:50 ID: aca747 No.400707 >>400716 ID: >>400331

spare webchat

spare etherpad



change onion to onion.to if you don't have tor

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The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 03:03:21 ID: d078d1 No.400715 ID: (hide) : File 1415070201320.png (70.93 KB, 592x554, 296:277, 1412581070648.png >>399470

>almost always end in settlements.



You never have to settle! It is always a choice that is made.



And don't conflate the FTC with a class action, they are two independent things. We simply do both. You never have to settle! It is always a choice that is made.And don't conflate the FTC with a class action, they are two independent things. We simply do both.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 03:03:28 ID: aca747 No.400716 >>400862 ID: >>400707

that's allyour4nert7pkh.onion on the first one jeez i suck ass that's allyour4nert7pkh.onion on the first one jeez i suck ass

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 03:11:03 ID: d078d1 No.400778 >>400870 ID: (hide) : File 1415070663224.jpg (406.77 KB, 1920x1200, 8:5, Avatar-Wallpaper-Neytiri7.jpg >>399732



You make no sense at all.



>The suit will likely get no publicity.

You cant know this, but assuming your right what difference does it make?



>Go on long after it's over.

This makes no sense it totally contradicts itself.



>And will seem like a bitter move to those who are aware of the suit.

When are class actions ever seen as bitter? What makes you think it would look like a bitter move. And if it gets 'no publicity' why would you care?



I just cant understand at all what your angle is. There is just no logic to it.



We want the evidence to en up in the public domain, it wont get there through the FTC, we need a class action law suit. You make no sense at all.You cant know this, but assuming your right what difference does it make?This makes no sense it totally contradicts itself.When are class actions ever seen as bitter? What makes you think it would look like a bitter move. And if it gets 'no publicity' why would you care?I just cant understand at all what your angle is. There is just no logic to it.We want the evidence to en up in the public domain, it wont get there through the FTC, we need a class action law suit.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 03:21:34 ID: d078d1 No.400862 ID: >>400716

OK so what the fuck is up with the music, you made me fucking enable javascript on tor you fag >_< now I'll get tor aids, and the chat still wont work, also all my disappoint when your 8chan clone don't go.



Oh wait I got the irc link to go. OK so what the fuck is up with the music, you made me fucking enable javascript on tor you fag >_< now I'll get tor aids, and the chat still wont work, also all my disappoint when your 8chan clone don't go.Oh wait I got the irc link to go.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 03:23:01 ID: 85873d No.400870 >>401015 ID: >>400778

I meant long after GG has died down.



And it could work, but I doubt we could get that organized.



I guess we could do both a class action and FTC.



I am being too critical of the class action, although I do believe the FTC would be best because they have so much power.



I am personally going to try to organize an FTC complaint bomb or something. Maybe we can collaborate the class action to complement the FTC. There are antitrust violations and FTC violations, we just need to find where each violation would do best. I meant long after GG has died down.And it could work, but I doubt we could get that organized.I guess we could do both a class action and FTC.I am being too critical of the class action, although I do believe the FTC would be best because they have so much power.I am personally going to try to organize an FTC complaint bomb or something. Maybe we can collaborate the class action to complement the FTC. There are antitrust violations and FTC violations, we just need to find where each violation would do best.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 03:37:58 ID: d078d1 No.401015 >>401036>>401130 ID: >>400870



You don't need to be that organised to do class action. You just need like four or so people who will put there name on the lawsuit and the judge will decide how baud the class is. Law firms ususally do all the work and they do it for free (but they get there cut in the end).



And there are no breaks on the FTC train, it would go on for years too. But we have no way to steer it.



There will be allot of overlap too. Almost all wrong doing would count in both cases. You don't need to be that organised to do class action. You just need like four or so people who will put there name on the lawsuit and the judge will decide how baud the class is. Law firms ususally do all the work and they do it for free (but they get there cut in the end).And there are no breaks on the FTC train, it would go on for years too. But we have no way to steer it.There will be allot of overlap too. Almost all wrong doing would count in both cases.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 03:39:51 ID: 85873d No.401036 >>401123 ID: >>401015



>And there are no breaks on the FTC train, it would go on for years too. But we have no way to steer it.



Good point.



So what would be our desired outcome in a class action suit? Good point.So what would be our desired outcome in a class action suit?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 03:45:58 ID: d078d1 No.401123 >>401140>>401222 ID: (hide) : File 1415072758095.png (71.21 KB, 480x449, 480:449, 1412475677404.png >>401036

A ruling of guilt, a shit load of documents put in public domain showing the extent of corruption, totally stopping the rampant bribery and collusion in the industry and a $5 steam gift card for everyone on earth.

(no more gamejurnospro)

(no more pay to play favoring AAA)



Probably several corrupt journalists being unemployable in the industry too. A ruling of guilt, a shit load of documents put in public domain showing the extent of corruption, totally stopping the rampant bribery and collusion in the industry and a $5 steam gift card for everyone on earth.(no more gamejurnospro)(no more pay to play favoring AAA)Probably several corrupt journalists being unemployable in the industry too.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 03:46:30 ID: 85873d No.401130 >>401410>>401419 ID: >>401015

I just favor FTC because of the officiality it would provide, and media outlets would no longer be able to discount us. And if they pick it up, change is almost guaranteed.



Whereas if a class action suit fails, it could be the ultimate blow to our morale I just favor FTC because of the officiality it would provide, and media outlets would no longer be able to discount us. And if they pick it up, change is almost guaranteed.Whereas if a class action suit fails, it could be the ultimate blow to our morale

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 03:47:04 ID: b99ac9 No.401140 ID: >>401123

….and the lawyers get millions from Gawkers, Polygon…….



Happy ending for everyone ….and the lawyers get millions from Gawkers, Polygon…….Happy ending for everyone

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 03:52:54 ID: 85873d No.401222 ID: >>401123

I'm on board for both. We need a better place to discuss this though. Where should we go? I'm on board for both. We need a better place to discuss this though. Where should we go?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 04:09:21 ID: d078d1 No.401410 >>401493>>405444>>419466 ID: (hide) : File 1415074161142.jpg (89.06 KB, 800x654, 400:327, Vector.jpg >>401130

>Whereas if a class action suit fails,



It would take years for that to happen and I seriously doubt it would fail. Just starting one will be a huge benefit to our public image when people keep trying to say we are not about ethics in journalism.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWw7LwIYHbA&feature=youtu.be&t=4m59s







>I'm a AAA producer, that's where I live. I've seen the emails come down about e3 demos and press junkets. And I'm line level in a producer pet so are chances are I'm the one booking your flights and your bar tabs and spa treatments and catering in rooms full HD TVs an Alienware Razer keyboard with neon fucking under carriages and none of these are about the game. Were playing you with Paola we're not just expecting you to not be impartial were fucking banking on it. It would take years for that to happen and I seriously doubt it would fail. Just starting one will be a huge benefit to our public image when people keep trying to say we are not about ethics in journalism.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 04:10:28 ID: d078d1 No.401419 >>401493 ID: >>401130



There is no reason I can think of not to do both. There is no reason I can think of not to do both.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 04:17:21 ID: 85873d No.401493 ID: >>401410

>>401419

Let's go for it. Do you guys know of any good team chats that are organized? lmao Let's go for it. Do you guys know of any good team chats that are organized? lmao

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 04:39:51 ID: d078d1 No.401739 >>401754>>401765 ID: >>401552

>>401711

Cant we just onto google? Don't you have a burner account? Also google docks are sweet. Cant we just onto google? Don't you have a burner account? Also google docks are sweet.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 04:42:47 ID: 85873d No.401765 ID: >>401739

Shit I just realized I have a five page paper due tomorrow. I will make one when I finish my paper. Should only take an hour. Shit I just realized I have a five page paper due tomorrow. I will make one when I finish my paper. Should only take an hour.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 04:56:08 ID: f631ed No.401881 ID: >>399557

Seems bitter?

Seems bitter?

Seems bitter?



We have been compared to terrorists, ebola and child molesters, I think we can survive people thinking we are bitter. Seems bitter?Seems bitter?Seems bitter?We have been compared to terrorists, ebola and child molesters, I think we can survive people thinking we are bitter.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 04:56:14 ID: 3c01bc No.401885 >>401900>>401916 ID: (hide) : File 1415076974834.jpeg (145.58 KB, 1006x569, 1006:569, 745635434536.jpeg >>393088 (OP)

>mfw I was talking about this at the start of /gg/

>mfw people called me a shill because I was comparing what they had done to legitmate Fraud



No one would even listen to me about the Payola Scandal, in which they literally hauled up DJ's back in the 60's in front of congress like they were the mob for paying off people to play songs.



I'm glad /gg/ has at least come around to the fact that putting this in the hands of a Federal Investigation is not only the best way to go, but could end this thing once and forever.



But it still kinda saddens me that it took this long though. No one would even listen to me about the Payola Scandal, in which they literally hauled up DJ's back in the 60's in front of congress like they were the mob for paying off people to play songs.I'm glad /gg/ has at least come around to the fact that putting this in the hands of a Federal Investigation is not only the best way to go, but could end this thing once and forever.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 04:58:35 ID: 85873d No.401900 >>401980 ID: >>401885

I've been saying this for a while too man. It took you getting your thread stickied to the top. Want to join our google hangout sesh to discuss where to go from here? I've been saying this for a while too man. It took you getting your thread stickied to the top. Want to join our google hangout sesh to discuss where to go from here?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 04:59:47 ID: d078d1 No.401916 ID: >>401885

It's hard to get shit rolling on a chan some times. When you tried to bring it up did you use a 2000x2000 pixel government seal, a huge ass text wall with green text and a shit load of links? Cuz that's the kinda shit it takes. It's hard to get shit rolling on a chan some times. When you tried to bring it up did you use a 2000x2000 pixel government seal, a huge ass text wall with green text and a shit load of links? Cuz that's the kinda shit it takes.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 05:05:45 ID: ddd438 No.401964 >>401978 ID: >>399556

>both houses



Only the House, Democrats have 10 in the senate.



But yes, after Gawker defended the incestuous child molester, I doubt many Republicans wouldn't jump at a chance to take down Gawker. Only the House, Democrats have 10 in the senate.But yes, after Gawker defended the incestuous child molester, I doubt many Republicans wouldn't jump at a chance to take down Gawker.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 05:07:48 ID: 85873d No.401978 ID: >>401964

Not to mention we could destroy Salon, which would definitely be appealing to they.



And We will have a Senate majority after tomorrow i believe Not to mention we could destroy Salon, which would definitely be appealing to they.And We will have a Senate majority after tomorrow i believe

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 05:07:52 ID: 3c01bc No.401980 ID: (hide) : File 1415077672294.gif (116.55 KB, 278x300, 139:150, 1346741996771.gif >>401900

Sure! Can I have a link to it? Sure!

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 05:10:01 ID: d078d1 No.402004 >>402037 ID: >>401991

I decided not to use that account for this >_<

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 05:12:25 ID: 6b7660 No.402022 ID: Burn their corrupt, law breaking, deceptive establishments to the ground, yes. Stop giving them traffic, stop giving them trust, stop giving them attention. They are dead, and they will be bled until there is nothing left.



When we rebuild we must be willing to blacklist anyone who is disruptive, but if they are not ideologically pure, and not not disrupt, then they should still be allowed to be a part of what we make in so much that they stay in line and do not try to bully, threaten, harass, shame, or use any manipulative, emotionally based tactics like they have for so long. However any site or group which does not properly vet, does not immediately put a stop to problem people must themselves be denounced and removed from the ideological pure new establishments. We must be ruthless.



All of the big company leaders know what's up. They are all red pill as fuck. They may show themselves as blue pill friendlies to the SJWs, but that is a marketing front for the easily influenced dummies who think based on feelings, because it's comfortable to blame others for your problems. It is simple posturing. People do not get into power like that without knowing what's up in the world and how things really work, what is really true. The moment that it is clear that public opinion has been swayed they will all flip and pretend like they were always proGG.



Things are already shifting in public opinion because people are talking like people do and the truth is spreading despite the MSM's efforts to paint a false narrative. It will take time. Understand this, and do not get discouraged. Remember that this is now the new normal. We are the vanguards against corruption and we will never go away even when gaming is saved.



We will never be able to burn the SJWs out, but we can put up actual competitors who won't carry the party line of their ideology. We will stand on the facts, we will be factual, we will be ethical, we will be transparent, and we will build the industry how it should be. It will be strong, and renewed, more immune from the taint that is SJWism. There will always be some who prefer pretty lies over the truth, but they will be marginalized by force into their own quarantined pits of degeneracy - lies, hate, corruption all have been allowed to go on for too long.



The common people do not want bullshit. They do not want to be lied to. They want the truth. They want high quality products. They want people who they can trust who earn their respect.



I call upon all of you to not do what is easy but to do what is right.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 05:19:25 ID: 3c01bc No.402093 ID: >>402082

added to acquaintances

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 05:22:48 ID: 85873d No.402122 >>402145 ID: >>402082

bro wtf is going on lmao. sorry if I seem absent minded right now i am half asleep bro wtf is going on lmao. sorry if I seem absent minded right now i am half asleep

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 05:36:33 ID: 3c01bc No.402219 >>402240>>402285 ID: (hide) : File 1415079393476.jpg (4.13 MB, 2560x1440, 16:9, 1388903121053.jpg Well why people get this google shit sorted out or something, I could begin work on a video.



Other than the main sticky, what are some key points people believe need to be hit on in this thing or other things that need to be addressed with the subject?



I just spent all of my evening crunching out another #GG vid, and I was planning on doing something like this anyway. If I have to I can stay up all night and complete it due to the urgency of time.



So, whats this sucker need?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 05:39:22 ID: 85873d No.402240 >>402716 ID: >>402219

We need to investigate the anti trust laws and crap. Join the google group. I wouldn't release a video about filing suits and complaints until we get our shit sorted out. We want to take them by surprise. We need to investigate the anti trust laws and crap. Join the google group. I wouldn't release a video about filing suits and complaints until we get our shit sorted out. We want to take them by surprise.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 05:39:59 ID: 85873d No.402245 ID: I'm down for an election night live stream with like four people tomorrow night around 10

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 05:45:31 ID: d078d1 No.402285 >>402716>>403050 ID: (hide) : File 1415079931238.jpg (142.93 KB, 640x431, 640:431, 8731143251_7f6358c884_z.jpg >>402219



We need to document all illegal activity by bloggers/journalists and the sites.



A few I can think of are.



Instances of undisclosed bribes gifts given to bloggers/journalists.

Collusion between competitors (gamejournopro).

Deceptive advertising ie amazon/newegg/bestbuy associate/affiliate links not labeled as advertisements. We need to document all illegal activity by bloggers/journalists and the sites.A few I can think of are.Instances of undisclosedgifts given to bloggers/journalists.Collusion between competitors (gamejournopro).Deceptive advertising ie amazon/newegg/bestbuy associate/affiliate links not labeled as advertisements.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 05:55:50 ID: fa0969 No.402376 >>402412 ID: I said this on /v/, I'll say this here.



I think a class action lawsuit is applicable toward the GDC.



I think a lawsuit is applicable toward various journalists for slandering specific individuals.



And if the BR shit pans out, a lawsuit is applicable towards Anita Sarkeesian.



That's just me though.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 06:21:51 ID: d078d1 No.402580 >>402680 ID: >>402412

GDC game developers conference. They give out $50,000 in prizes to indy devs. There is some really shady shit with how they choose winners.



It is illegal to slander people, the media has been doing allot of that lately.



I don't know what the BR shit is with LW2. Perhaps something to do with a racket (the act of creating a problem that you can help solve for a price) ie breaking windshields when your a windshield replacement company.



It is illegal to call for a boycott of a competitor, something LW3 did.



LW1 engaged in anti competitive behavior towards TFYC too. I think she was also trying to be a consultant for them so that could also be racketeering.



Someone should go through the leaks of GJP to see if TFYC is mentioned.



Regardless I think all of this is quite different from the FTC or class action suit.



These other things would require up front funding for attorneys and such and are quite limited in target. GDC game developers conference. They give out $50,000 in prizes to indy devs. There is some really shady shit with how they choose winners.It is illegal to slander people, the media has been doing allot of that lately.I don't know what the BR shit is with LW2. Perhaps something to do with a racket (the act of creating a problem that you can help solve for a price) ie breaking windshields when your a windshield replacement company.It is illegal to call for a boycott of a competitor, something LW3 did.LW1 engaged in anti competitive behavior towards TFYC too. I think she was also trying to be a consultant for them so that could also be racketeering.Someone should go through the leaks of GJP to see if TFYC is mentioned.Regardless I think all of this is quite different from the FTC or class action suit.These other things would require up front funding for attorneys and such and are quite limited in target.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 06:40:30 ID: fa0969 No.402680 ID: >>402580

For about a month, /gg/ has been investigating Anita's death threats and have zoned in on them coming from a clickbait journalist in Brazil. When presenting this evidence to Anita, she blocks them. The only way to press charges is if Anita decides to.



To add to that, video evidence was misteriously pulled from youtube. I think that if Anita has full knowledge of who sent her death threats, and instead lies about it to the public, there has got to be some kind libel shit going on here. Especially because people's jobs are on the line.



I wanted to add these points because they are specific targets. Sometimes that's the only way you win. The little, factual wrong doings. If the GDC, Kotaku, or Anita go down legally, then it makes the whole of anti-GG look bad and makes us look better. And from that, various other legal fronts can be pursued.



Just my two cents though. For about a month, /gg/ has been investigating Anita's death threats and have zoned in on them coming from a clickbait journalist in Brazil. When presenting this evidence to Anita, she blocks them. The only way to press charges is if Anita decides to.To add to that, video evidence was misteriously pulled from youtube. I think that if Anita has full knowledge of who sent her death threats, and instead lies about it to the public, there has got to be some kind libel shit going on here. Especially because people's jobs are on the line.I wanted to add these points because they are specific targets. Sometimes that's the only way you win. The little, factual wrong doings. If the GDC, Kotaku, or Anita go down legally, then it makes the whole of anti-GG look bad and makes us look better. And from that, various other legal fronts can be pursued.Just my two cents though.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 06:47:03 ID: 3c01bc No.402716 >>402875>>402879>>403205>>403271>>403309>>407015 ID: >>402285

>>402240



Either way, here is a link to my most recent work.



I'd like public feedback from the /gg/ community for a video on this subject.



Please tell me (and be brutally honest):

====

What you liked

Didn't like

What you want out of a video

Suggestions for improvement

Anything in general that relates to the subject matter that you think should be mentioned



I will do my best to meet any and all constructive criticism for the improvement of the video, as the subject is important to me and I genuinely believe that this thing has the potential to really take /gg/ to the next phase; victory.



In the meantime I'm going to get some sleep, but I would encourage people who view this thread to ask around their family and friends for legal advice concerning this matter.



Someone MUST have a Lawyer in the family somewhere, and if we can get confirmation that their is a legal and legit claim to be pushed here, we can take action. Either way, here is a link to my most recent work.I'd like public feedback from the /gg/ community for a video on this subject.====I will do my best to meet any and all constructive criticism for the improvement of the video, as the subject is important to me and I genuinely believe that this thing has the potential to really take /gg/ to the next phase; victory.In the meantime I'm going to get some sleep, but I would encourage people who view this thread to ask around their family and friends for legal advice concerning this matter.Someone MUST have a Lawyer in the family somewhere, and if we can get confirmation that their is a legal and legit claim to be pushed here, we can take action.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 06:59:07 ID: a5f966 No.402796 >>403050>>407086 ID: >>398416

I want to know how I can help this one. How do we set up a class action suit? I'm rather legally uninformed.



And I want to know how I can help this one. How do we set up a class action suit? I'm rather legally uninformed.And >>399557 although you have points, as consumers we have the right at this point to be bitter, and truthfully most of us are. That being said, if they wanted more ammunition against us, they'd have to finally come up with factual evidence, which would AT LEAST lead to discussion. I support the idea.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 07:06:21 ID: 720309 No.402845 ID: remember, the best thing we can do is be the same crazy weirdo's we've been. That is why we have been winning. Remember, don't start playing their games, if we do we loose.

Urist_Mc.Dwarf The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 07:10:46 ID: 134541 No.402875 ID: >>402716

my goodness, that video

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 07:11:33 ID: d078d1 No.402879 >>403127 ID: >>402716

I agree with you. I think "stop doing anything except email" smells like shill to me and I don't even think the email target lists are very good. We need to fight against being our own little hug box.



Your production quality was good.



Brutally honest here the video was a bit long for the message. Did you use a full script or just bullet point notes? I agree with you. I think "stop doing anything except email" smells like shill to me and I don't even think the email target lists are very good. We need to fight against being our own little hug box.Your production quality was good.Brutally honest here the video was a bit long for the message. Did you use a full script or just bullet point notes?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 07:26:17 ID: a89134 No.402988 >>403086>>405383 ID: It may also be worth it to report people who are not reporting unearned income to the IRS

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 07:32:08 ID: d078d1 No.403050 ID: (hide) : File 1415086327946.gif (2.22 MB, 297x229, 297:229, 1403886057024.gif >>402796

>I want to know how I can help this one. How do we set up a class action suit?



You don't need to worry too much about setting up the lawsuit yet. But if you want to learn the Wikipedia article on it and other Google results has some decent information if your still interested.



Initially (next couple of days) I think we are going to focus on FTC because it is a far easier operation. Almost anything we find that violates FTC will be directly applicable in a class action so there is no wasted effort.



See

>>402285

And read the FTC links in the OP.



Then start finding and documenting shit. A good place is looking for videos of conferences or combing through GJP emails or ironically we have found articles and tweets from insiders talking openly about it so there are bound to be more.



http://files.gamergate.me/journolist/ You don't need to worry too much about setting up the lawsuit yet. But if you want to learn the Wikipedia article on it and other Google results has some decent information if your still interested.Initially (next couple of days) I think we are going to focus on FTC because it is a far easier operation. Almost anything we find that violates FTC will be directly applicable in a class action so there is no wasted effort.SeeAnd read the FTC links in the OP.Then start finding and documenting shit. A good place is looking for videos of conferences or combing through GJP emails or ironically we have found articles and tweets from insiders talking openly about it so there are bound to be more.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 07:36:40 ID: d078d1 No.403086 ID: >>402988

How would we know if someone did taht? That is usually only something close friends and family would know about.



You are supposed to report gifts over a certain value on your taxes. I guess it's worth looking into but still how would we know if the people where not honest in there taxes. How would we know if someone did taht? That is usually only something close friends and family would know about.You are supposed to report gifts over a certain value on your taxes. I guess it's worth looking into but still how would we know if the people where not honest in there taxes.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 07:41:03 ID: 3c01bc No.403127 ID: (hide) : File 1415086863541.jpg (676.63 KB, 1680x1050, 8:5, 1360213585073.jpg >>402879

Yes that's unfortunately a bad habit of mine.



I usually read from a script as I want to get in everything that I want to say, and that I feel it's important. If it needs to be shorter I'll see if I can condense future points and cut to chase quicker. Yes that's unfortunately a bad habit of mine.I usually read from a script as I want to get in everything that I want to say, and that I feel it's important. If it needs to be shorter I'll see if I can condense future points and cut to chase quicker.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 07:47:56 ID: 87c2f3 No.403205 >>403263>>420761 ID: >>402716

For the lawyer component, maybe hotwheels can help us? For the lawyer component, maybe hotwheels can help us?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 07:54:29 ID: 3c01bc No.403263 ID: (hide) : File 1415087669522.jpg (538 KB, 2559x1439, 2559:1439, 1390325106139.jpg >>403205

That's not a bad idea actually.



If HW required some form of compensation for the Lawyers Services we could create a kickstart or patreon or some shit and all pitch in for the damages.



We'll have to look at some way of getting into contact with him. That's not a bad idea actually.If HW required some form of compensation for the Lawyers Services we could create a kickstart or patreon or some shit and all pitch in for the damages.We'll have to look at some way of getting into contact with him.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 07:55:13 ID: 21209a No.403271 >>403332 ID: >>402716

I agreed with the original post, but the way you put it, I realize that stricter moderation is not the answer. I agreed with the original post, but the way you put it, I realize that stricter moderation is not the answer.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 08:00:22 ID: a89134 No.403309 >>403332 ID: >>402716

The pacing sucks, its too long. I dont know if you should speed it up or trim some of the negative space The pacing sucks, its too long. I dont know if you should speed it up or trim some of the negative space

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 08:04:15 ID: 3c01bc No.403332 >>403975>>407611 ID: >>403271

Preciate it m8.



>>403309

I've considered talking faster or trimming down but what do you mean by negative space? Preciate it m8.I've considered talking faster or trimming down but what do you mean by negative space?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 10:22:22 ID: b00f93 No.404580 ID: >>404250

iloominati iloominati

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 11:46:01 ID: fc7284 No.405280 >>405440>>407058 ID: (hide) : File 1415101561027.jpg (397.39 KB, 1247x799, 1247:799, they said i was crazy.jpg All you people not reporting to the FTC and doing class action:



ARE YOU INSANE?



THIS IS THEIR WEAK SPOT.



Forget the fucking advertisers, that's just one of their ressources.

They still have credibility and sympathy as their ressource.

If they get drawn into a legal battle, they lose ALL their money, advertisers WILL withdraw, people WILL know about them.

They wont be able to keep publishing smearcampaigns.

This is where we strike.

This is where we WIN.



Every single time they come up on stage they will have to answer the question "aren't you involved in several class action lawsuits AND being investigated by the FTC?"

Remember how LWu paniced when confronted with the "satire account"? That for EVERYONE, times a houndred.



The SJW have an extremely strong expressed hero worship, based ony martyrdom and victomhood. If we take out their figureheads, they lose any sympathy, if we take out their actionaries, they lose any possibility to do anything.

LW is incapable of doing anything

LWu is in over her head

LW2 is just a sockpuppet for FullMcIntosh

And Lena Dunham is just a dumb idiot with no self-awareness.

Conquistadorjordan@gmail.com The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 12:00:58 ID: 85873d No.405383 ID: >>402988

This dude. This may be a better idea than the FTC.



It just takes a shit ton of sifting through the facts. Like so much is speculation, we need to compile a doc full of solid facts and their proof/links. This dude. This may be a better idea than the FTC.It just takes a shit ton of sifting through the facts. Like so much is speculation, we need to compile a doc full of solid facts and their proof/links.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 12:13:04 ID: 85873d No.405440 ID: >>405280

Heck yeah. They'll be forced to stop. They'll be forced to submit. It would be great to have these both going around the same time. Heck yeah. They'll be forced to stop. They'll be forced to submit. It would be great to have these both going around the same time.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 12:13:38 ID: 01eac7 No.405444 >>405459>>408658 ID: >>401410



I'm not in the states otherwise I'd be behind this already.



You amerifats better not let the rest of us down I'm not in the states otherwise I'd be behind this already.You amerifats better not let the rest of us down

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 12:16:20 ID: 85873d No.405459 ID: >>405444

Sticking it to the man is my specialty bro. I never miss an opportunity to do so. Sticking it to the man is my specialty bro. I never miss an opportunity to do so.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 12:17:17 ID: 437aee No.405463 ID: It's too early.



Needs a lot of research and material.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 12:22:42 ID: bde60b No.405498 >>406114 ID:

Reason for this is because we may have proof that there was astroturfing going on by Gawker media CEO Isn't astroturfing also illegal? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing#Policies_and_enforcement Reason for this is because we may have proof that there was astroturfing going on by Gawker media CEO

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 13:47:42 ID: c83dd6 No.405956 ID: >>399618

>Stephen King

ayy lmao

The fuck is he looking at? ayy lmaoThe fuck is he looking at?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 14:15:17 ID: 85873d No.406114 ID: >>405498

I think our strongest asset is our unpredictability. No one expects 8chan to take advantage of the legal system.



We need to really get our shit together if we are going to go through with this. I think our strongest asset is our unpredictability. No one expects 8chan to take advantage of the legal system.We need to really get our shit together if we are going to go through with this.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 16:11:29 ID: 85873d No.407015 ID: >>402716

This is great! I would get to the point faster, but I think videos like these is what our movement. needs most. This is great! I would get to the point faster, but I think videos like these is what our movement. needs most.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 16:15:28 ID: 85873d No.407058 ID: >>405280

A lot of people still really like the idea of a class action. Personally I don't agree, but why stop them?



It would be nice to have everyone unite under the front of FTC first, just to get us some legal credibility.



It would also probably get lawyers to reach out to us. A lot of people still really like the idea of a class action. Personally I don't agree, but why stop them?It would be nice to have everyone unite under the front of FTC first, just to get us some legal credibility.It would also probably get lawyers to reach out to us.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 16:18:14 ID: 85873d No.407086 ID: >>402796

I doubt anything would change from a class action suit though.



Imagine how much better it would be for all these scumbag journalists to get grilled in the senate by fucking Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders. I doubt anything would change from a class action suit though.Imagine how much better it would be for all these scumbag journalists to get grilled in the senate by fucking Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 17:09:57 ID: 3c01bc No.407544 ID: (hide) : File 1415120996001.jpg (313.91 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1388964952759.jpg >>403975



Once I get it ready. Video will likely not be done tonight but if it is it will be real late in the night or early in the morning.



Still doing research right now and trying to figure out who I can talk too.



What I've Found Out



It's been suggested that I report this as a crime in which case I would need to hire a lawyer and prove damages, but I would still prefer this be taken to a federal level of investigation. Either way, evidence will have to be compiled (real evidence, not just screenshots) to figure out if the case is legitament or not. Once I get it ready. Video will likely not be done tonight but if it is it will be real late in the night or early in the morning.Still doing research right now and trying to figure out who I can talk too.It's been suggested that I report this as a crime in which case I would need to hire a lawyer and prove damages, but I would still prefer this be taken to a federal level of investigation. Either way, evidence will have to be compiled (real evidence, not just screenshots) to figure out if the case is legitament or not.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 17:16:20 ID: a89134 No.407611 >>407631 ID: >>403332

When I say negative space I mean pauses in between sentences or words. Listen to a minute of you talking vs say, a minute of IA talking. IA talks very fast and trims his videos so there is little "negative space" or time where nothing is being said, he gets the idea out fast. People have really short attention spans, especially online. You want to get the message out, get the gravity of the situation to them quickly, hold their attention, and deliver the message.



Sorry. I'm looking for fault though since you wanted it. The video is quite good, although admittedly I didn't finish it (stopped halfway through) due to my own time constraints. When I say negative space I mean pauses in between sentences or words. Listen to a minute of you talking vs say, a minute of IA talking. IA talks very fast and trims his videos so there is little "negative space" or time where nothing is being said, he gets the idea out fast. People have really short attention spans, especially online. You want to get the message out, get the gravity of the situation to them quickly, hold their attention, and deliver the message.Sorry. I'm looking for fault though since you wanted it. The video is quite good, although admittedly I didn't finish it (stopped halfway through) due to my own time constraints.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 17:18:01 ID: 3c01bc No.407631 ID: >>407611

No big deal man, I'm looking for ways to make it better and that could really help. I'll see what I can do, I think I'll try condensing things down a bit to see how much of an effect that has on the length. Appreciate the nice comments too. No big deal man, I'm looking for ways to make it better and that could really help. I'll see what I can do, I think I'll try condensing things down a bit to see how much of an effect that has on the length. Appreciate the nice comments too.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 17:48:23 ID: c1eab6 No.407952 ID: >>393088 (OP)



Someone should try to sue Comedy Central for letting Anita Sarkeesian go on the Colbert Report



She is a con artist after all. There HAS to be an anti-con artist law somewhere Someone should try to sue Comedy Central for letting Anita Sarkeesian go on the Colbert ReportShe is a con artist after all. There HAS to be an anti-con artist law somewhere

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 17:54:47 ID: 155ce3 No.408013 ID: >>399424

>>399388



Nope. Report it to the FTC.



https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/ Nope. Report it to the FTC.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 18:58:11 ID: d078d1 No.408658 ID: >>405444

At this point we need research more than anything else. At this point we need research more than anything else.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 20:26:31 ID: 85873d No.409664 >>412534>>412712 ID:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Woog6dSg_lE



We have about 3 of us right now to be on the panel where we will discuss our strategy for this. Spread the word you guys!



GamerGate has gone legal!



#OperationRekt Ok you guys, I've got the live hangout session up and it will go live tonight at 1030 PM EST TONIGHT.We have about 3 of us right now to be on the panel where we will discuss our strategy for this. Spread the word you guys!GamerGate has gone legal!#OperationRekt

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 20:28:54 ID: 85873d No.409682 ID: https://plus.google.com/communities/107807011834879930603



We also have a google plus group discussing our strategy for the lawsuit/FTC complaints. It's much easier.



I will have a google Doc up soon outlining our plan of attack. We also have a google plus group discussing our strategy for the lawsuit/FTC complaints. It's much easier.I will have a google Doc up soon outlining our plan of attack.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 22:59:27 ID: c54dfc No.411575 >>411592 ID: >>393088 (OP)

Another avenue for FTC complaint: Gawker Media often skirts or even outright ignores the disclosure rules on paid affiliate links. See here for details:



http://chieflunatic.weebly.com/ Another avenue for FTC complaint: Gawker Media often skirts or even outright ignores the disclosure rules on paid affiliate links. See here for details:

The Leader of Gamergate 11/04/14 (Tue) 23:00:55 ID: 85873d No.411592 ID: >>411575

Yeah bro I've been posting that around. Would you like to join the live stream tonight? Yeah bro I've been posting that around. Would you like to join the live stream tonight?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 00:25:20 ID: c83dd6 No.412534 ID: >>409664

I'll be around to watch, but that's about it. I'll be around to watch, but that's about it.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 00:41:29 ID: 891a18 No.412712 >>413091 ID: >>409664

I'm looking forward to your stream, lawfag. Would be grand if you could drag Cernovich into it (I think it was the name of that boxer fellow from Twitter). What are the topics besides racketeering? I'm looking forward to your stream, lawfag. Would be grand if you could drag Cernovich into it (I think it was the name of that boxer fellow from Twitter). What are the topics besides racketeering?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 00:50:54 ID: f681ad No.412820 ID: >>393088 (OP)

i don't know how it works, so ill copy it here:



Theory of truth, Dialectics

(I hope i am contributing in the good way, this is what I am trying to add:)

Engage in Dialectics, following a logical train of thought as stated by the theory of knowledge, which means that you have a Thesis (an opinion if you will) that you will elaborate but immediatly after try to destroy it (if you succeed, you are doing it right, but your argument was wrong), this is the anti-thesis, which acting as a debugger will take away all non stable arguments to leave only those that cannot be turned down. Restructure your narrative and repeat, this way you will achieve an excellent argumentation with little to no weak points and lacking (if done well) any irrationalities and sentimental arguments in them. This activty requires an huge amount of self critiscism and good faith, be sure to be calm and grounded when you engage on it. i don't know how it works, so ill copy it here:Theory of truth, Dialectics(I hope i am contributing in the good way, this is what I am trying to add:)Engage in Dialectics, following a logical train of thought as stated by the theory of knowledge, which means that you have a Thesis (an opinion if you will) that you will elaborate but immediatly after try to destroy it (if you succeed, you are doing it right, but your argument was wrong), this is the anti-thesis, which acting as a debugger will take away all non stable arguments to leave only those that cannot be turned down. Restructure your narrative and repeat, this way you will achieve an excellent argumentation with little to no weak points and lacking (if done well) any irrationalities and sentimental arguments in them. This activty requires an huge amount of self critiscism and good faith, be sure to be calm and grounded when you engage on it.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 01:21:33 ID: 85873d No.413091 >>413340 ID: >>412712

What's with Cernovich?



lawfa/gg/ *



And just our basic strategy for going about it. We want you guys to take part too, so please comment questions to us.



And there is tons of stuff: Collusion which leads to violation of antitrust and monopoly laws



Tax evasion



Astroturf What's with Cernovich?lawfa/gg/ *And just our basic strategy for going about it. We want you guys to take part too, so please comment questions to us.And there is tons of stuff: Collusion which leads to violation of antitrust and monopoly lawsTax evasionAstroturf

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 01:47:37 ID: 891a18 No.413340 >>413545 ID: >>413091

I hope that you understand that what you're doing, lawfa/gg/ TM, if done well enough could mean the end of this whole debacle, or at the very least catapult us to a whole new level of fuck. I have some mad respect for you doing this.



Oh, and given the recent events, I think that conspiracy should definitely be brought to the table. I hope that you understand that what you're doing, lawfa/gg/ TM, if done well enough could mean the end of this whole debacle, or at the very least catapult us to a whole new level of fuck. I have some mad respect for you doing this.Oh, and given the recent events, I think that conspiracy should definitely be brought to the table.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 02:14:45 ID: 85873d No.413545 >>413649 ID: >>413340

We hope so too man lmao. It is just a matter of sorting through the details and choosing the right approach for the movement. This stream is just a way for us to bring this discussion to a more public setting.



Can you link me to something about Cernovich? We hope so too man lmao. It is just a matter of sorting through the details and choosing the right approach for the movement. This stream is just a way for us to bring this discussion to a more public setting.Can you link me to something about Cernovich?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 02:24:06 ID: 891a18 No.413649 >>413757 ID: >>413545

I have no Twitter account, sorry. I'm kinda anti-social (media). He was that lawyer who was willing to box Sam Bidle for charity. Mike Cernovich, if I recall correctly.



Pro-tip: invite some e-celeb to attract the pleb. KoP would fit nicely. This is too important to go unnoticed, but I understand that this is God of Boredom tier of stream, so you'll have to bait your audience. I have no Twitter account, sorry. I'm kinda anti-social (media). He was that lawyer who was willing to box Sam Bidle for charity. Mike Cernovich, if I recall correctly.Pro-tip: invite some e-celeb to attract the pleb. KoP would fit nicely. This is too important to go unnoticed, but I understand that this is God of Boredom tier of stream, so you'll have to bait your audience.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 02:34:33 ID: 85873d No.413757 >>413781 ID: >>413649

I know man-_- I've been trying to get some heavy hitters, but so far no bait. :/



Only an hour left until we go live now… so it's probs too late I know man-_- I've been trying to get some heavy hitters, but so far no bait. :/Only an hour left until we go live now… so it's probs too late

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 03:02:03 ID: 891a18 No.414003 ID: >>413912

CHOO FUCKING CHOO! CHOO FUCKING CHOO!

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 07:11:29 ID: 3c01bc No.417535 ID: (hide) : File 1415171489805.jpg (350.53 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1390671242194.jpg >>393088 (OP)

Bright Days are ahead of us. Bright Days are ahead of us.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 09:55:16 ID: d078d1 No.419417 >>419440 ID: >>419413

Prove what? Prove what?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 09:57:40 ID: c11f85 No.419440 >>419466 ID: >>419417

How do you prove they're recieving gifts or payments without breaking into their house? How do you prove they're recieving gifts or payments without breaking into their house?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 09:59:19 ID: d078d1 No.419466 ID: >>419440

Because they admit to it like a bunch of retards.



See this video

>>401410 Because they admit to it like a bunch of retards.See this video

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 10:22:41 ID: d078d1 No.419678 ID: (hide) : File 1415182961358-0.webm (6.17 MB, 640x360, 16:9, How to File a Complaint w….webm [play once] [loop] Read through the PDF in the op or find other info from the FTC. Find something, find something good, find something specific with a decent amount of evidence. Get archive.today backup of it or put info in a google drive with privacy set to shared link.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 10:28:31 ID: 10733d No.419734 ID: >>393088 (OP)

>Because his review is disseminated via a form of consumer-generated media in which his relationship to the advertiser is not inherently obvious, readers are unlikely to know that he has received the video game system free of charge in exchange for his review of the product, and given the value of the video game system, this fact likely would materially affect the credibility they attach to his endorsement.



This seems like its biased against new media and on-line journalism. I never remember seeing newspaper or magazine reviews saying they'd received the things they were reviewing free of charge. Nobody ever told me directly that that was how it worked, that every theatre reviewer gets free tickets (and not just for him but a load that he can give out to friends, colleagues, etc), I just worked it out as I grew up. This is saying that if you're a citizen journalist, people won't think as critically about what you write. This seems like its biased against new media and on-line journalism. I never remember seeing newspaper or magazine reviews saying they'd received the things they were reviewing free of charge. Nobody ever told me directly that that was how it worked, that every theatre reviewer gets free tickets (and not just for him but a load that he can give out to friends, colleagues, etc), I just worked it out as I grew up. This is saying that if you're a citizen journalist, people won't think as critically about what you write.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 10:38:19 ID: d078d1 No.419824 ID: (hide) : File 1415183899239-0.jpg (185.08 KB, 1040x708, 260:177, ftc1.jpg (hide) : File 1415183899239-1.jpg (182.96 KB, 1044x712, 261:178, ftc2.jpg (hide) : File 1415183899240-2.jpg (125.12 KB, 1032x664, 129:83, ftc3.jpg (hide) : File 1415183899240-3.jpg (200.67 KB, 1028x1000, 257:250, ftc4.jpg (hide) : File 1415183899240-4.jpg (182.78 KB, 1076x912, 269:228, ftc5.jpg

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

Follow the attached pictures.



Company info is

Gawker Media

210 Elizabeth St New York, NY 10012 United States

Company Email Address: nick@USE ARCHIVE.TODAY IDIOT

Comapny Phone Number: 212-655-9524

(I think the FTC would be better served with nicks direct number if anyone has it. I don't think this would count as doxing because we need it for official busness)





The next link will ask you for your info. Fill it out accurately. They may contact you be able to converse with them, if they email you we can help you with suggestions if you post it here. Then you have the 3500 characters to enter your complaint. We want it to be meaty. Share links and specific info. You can post the complaint here we will help proof read/offer suggestions if you like. Go hereFollow the attached pictures.Company info isGawker Media210 Elizabeth St New York, NY 10012 United StatesCompany Email Address: nick@USE ARCHIVE.TODAY IDIOTComapny Phone Number: 212-655-9524The next link will ask you for your info. Fill it out accurately. They may contact you be able to converse with them, if they email you we can help you with suggestions if you post it here. Then you have the 3500 characters to enter your complaint. We want it to be meaty. Share links and specific info. You can post the complaint here we will help proof read/offer suggestions if you like.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 12:13:22 ID: 11c1ef No.420344 ID: >>399732

Fucking Shill. I remember you from the other thread. Get the fuck off of this board. Fucking Shill. I remember you from the other thread. Get the fuck off of this board.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 12:34:27 ID: d1f7a8 No.420473 >>420488 ID: >>393088 (OP)

Call me ignorant but jsut how will this fucking happen?



Do we submit information and the FTC takes their asses to court similar to what some other anons were looking to do with the IRS? Will they need to wheel a computer with a live IRC feed of everyone on /gg/ just screaming obscenities at the court or will we need to select a representative? Call me ignorant but jsut how will this fucking happen?Do we submit information and the FTC takes their asses to court similar to what some other anons were looking to do with the IRS? Will they need to wheel a computer with a live IRC feed of everyone on /gg/ just screaming obscenities at the court or will we need to select a representative?

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 12:37:51 ID: d078d1 No.420488 ID: >>420473

You find an FTC violation and report it. The FTC may contact you directly they may not. They will investigate and prosecute if they choose to. We do not go to court, the FTC does it all on there own, and they do it for free (well free to us)



A class action is another thing we are tossing around. It would also be free to us and we would need a handful of gamers/indi deves/aa producers to represent in court. You find an FTC violation and report it. The FTC may contact you directly they may not. They will investigate and prosecute if they choose to. We do not go to court, the FTC does it all on there own, and they do it for free (well free to us)A class action is another thing we are tossing around. It would also be free to us and we would need a handful of gamers/indi deves/aa producers to represent in court.

The Leader of Gamergate 11/05/14 (Wed) 13:27:42 ID: 8fa164 No.420761 ID: >>404250



A happy face.



>>403205



No lawyer would do it for free, so expect at least a crowdfund raising to happen if it comes to that. A happy face.No lawyer would do it for free, so expect at least a crowdfund raising to happen if it comes to that.