Hayl_Storm Profile Joined April 2011 The Shire 2137 Posts #1 Amaz











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Hellbourne Profile Joined January 2011 Germany 10 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-29 22:52:35 #2



EDIT: But I really don't want to seem ungrateful since you already bothered to upload these - thanks for that! Thanks a lot for posting these; though I have to admit I find this deck-format fairly annoying - all the decks as lists next to each other are much easier to look at (like so; sorry I can't seem to describe what I mean any better: Image EDIT: But I really don't want to seem ungrateful since you already bothered to upload these - thanks for that! I will... never be a memory.

ZarvonBar Profile Joined April 2013 7 Posts #3 I actually find this way of presenting a deck more clear, although I'm used to the standard list version from years of playing Magic.

iTzSnypah Profile Joined February 2011 United States 97 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-30 03:05:33 #4 Cabal Shadow Priest the dead card in the deck. It just sits in your hand while you wait for a target and when you finally get one the Mind Control Argent Commander Cairne Amaz hasn't progressed his Priest deck =[.dead card in the deck. It just sits in your hand while you wait for a target and when you finally get one the Team Liquid needs more Terrans.

Axxis Profile Joined May 2010 United States 11 Posts #5 Awesome, thanks for posting! It's always cool to see the subtle metagame choices people make with their builds. What we obtain too cheaply; we esteem too lightly. It is in dearness only that gives everything it's value.

idkfa Profile Joined October 2011 United States 55 Posts #6 For those that brought Shaman decks, I salute you! Was that a matter of simply liking the class, or were there specific matchups that the decks were intended to be useful for? If you use "literally" as a form of hyperbole, you will literally DIE! (Eventually.)

shadowboxer Profile Joined November 2010 United States 10 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-30 04:49:45 #7 On June 30 2014 12:23 idkfa wrote:

For those that brought Shaman decks, I salute you! Was that a matter of simply liking the class, or were there specific matchups that the decks were intended to be useful for?



Shaman is the only class with a slightly(very slight, mind you) favorable matchup against Druid. Its also a class that has a considerable skill cap which players at top level like to take advantage of. Its the same reason we saw as many Handlocks as we did: both are the type of decks that allows for top level players to really shine through decision making/positioning.



Druid is a very solid class and has moments where you can outplay for sure. For the most part though, you hope you can ramp early and then you play on curve every turn. Since most Druid cards can always trade 2 for 1 at the very least, you win simply by maximizing mana and card efficiency as long as you hold board control. Shaman counters this with efficient 2 for 1 minions as well as powerful removal spells(usually buffed with Thalnos



Shaman also has decent enough winrates in every other matchup as well. So if you counter the druid opener with shaman, then you have a chance to sweep with a deck thats mainly intended to take the strongest class in the game out. Shaman is the only class with a slightly(very slight, mind you) favorable matchup against Druid. Its also a class that has a considerable skill cap which players at top level like to take advantage of. Its the same reason we saw as many Handlocks as we did: both are the type of decks that allows for top level players to really shine through decision making/positioning.Druid is a very solid class and has moments where you can outplay for sure. For the most part though, you hope you can ramp early and then you play on curve every turn. Since most Druid cards can always trade 2 for 1 at the very least, you win simply by maximizing mana and card efficiency as long as you hold board control. Shaman counters this with efficient 2 for 1 minions as well as powerful removal spells(usually buffed withShaman also has decent enough winrates in every other matchup as well. So if you counter the druid opener with shaman, then you have a chance to sweep with a deck thats mainly intended to take the strongest class in the game out. "Hear that? That's God laughing at your plans."

AutumnThunder Profile Joined August 2011 United States 17 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-30 07:43:12 #8 I wish the resolution was a bit higher so I could more clearly read the French cards

dyDrawer Profile Joined September 2012 Canada 62 Posts #9 On June 30 2014 13:47 shadowboxer wrote:





Shaman is the only class with a slightly(very slight, mind you) favorable matchup against Druid



Uhm... Handlock?

Uhm... Handlock? Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"

Fi0na Profile Joined February 2014 1107 Posts #10 On June 30 2014 12:23 idkfa wrote:

For those that brought Shaman decks, I salute you! Was that a matter of simply liking the class, or were there specific matchups that the decks were intended to be useful for?



More like this:

Miracle Rogue has been at the top of the pyramid for enough time

-> everyone will bring Handlock, as it seems to be the most successful deck vs miracle

-> Shaman, Burn Mage and Aggro Hunter seem to be the most successful against Handlock



The matchup of Shaman vs Druid is actually pretty close in my humble opinion; depending on the deck and the draws it can get real ugly real fast for shaman, and not being able to heal and having to fear the combo does not make it easier. It has gotten slightly better since Druids stopped using Starfall BGH

Plus everyone has Handlock for an average/good matchup vs Druid anyway. More like this:Miracle Rogue has been at the top of the pyramid for enough time-> everyone will bring Handlock, as it seems to be the most successful deck vs miracle-> Shaman, Burn Mage and Aggro Hunter seem to be the most successful against HandlockThe matchup of Shaman vs Druid is actually pretty close in my humble opinion; depending on the deck and the draws it can get real ugly real fast for shaman, and not being able to heal and having to fear the combo does not make it easier. It has gotten slightly better since Druids stopped usingPlus everyone has Handlock for an average/good matchup vs Druid anyway. Life is not fair. But that's what chocolate is for.

Schelim Profile Joined January 2011 Scotland 1625 Posts #11 are there/will there be VODs of this? i wanna see the Priest decks. don't follow sc2 too closely anymore, don't take my posts too seriously.

StoRm_res Profile Joined March 2011 Switzerland 42 Posts #12 On June 30 2014 16:54 dyDrawer wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 30 2014 13:47 shadowboxer wrote:





Shaman is the only class with a slightly(very slight, mind you) favorable matchup against Druid



Uhm... Handlock?

Uhm... Handlock?



I played a lot of handlock and I must say, imho druid is favored, at least when they play BGH I played a lot of handlock and I must say, imho druid is favored, at least when they play

Beamo Profile Joined March 2003 France 125 Posts Last Edited: 2014-06-30 11:57:50 #13 On June 30 2014 20:07 StoRm_res wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 30 2014 16:54 dyDrawer wrote:

On June 30 2014 13:47 shadowboxer wrote:





Shaman is the only class with a slightly(very slight, mind you) favorable matchup against Druid



Uhm... Handlock?

Uhm... Handlock?



I played a lot of handlock and I must say, imho druid is favored, at least when they play BGH I played a lot of handlock and I must say, imho druid is favored, at least when they playand TBK. Plus they always have the keeper ready when you play your drakes



I think his point was that Shaman has a pretty good matchup vs Handlock due to Earth Shock

I think his point was that Shaman has a pretty good matchup vs Handlock due to

Testuser Profile Joined June 2011 32 Posts #14 On June 30 2014 12:03 iTzSnypah wrote:

Amaz hasn't progressed his Priest deck =[. Cabal Shadow Priest the dead card in the deck. It just sits in your hand while you wait for a target and when you finally get one the Mind Control Argent Commander Cairne Amaz hasn't progressed his Priest deck =[.isdead card in the deck. It just sits in your hand while you wait for a target and when you finally get one theeffect barely has any effect on the outcome of the game. I've replaced it with(triedfor awhile, but was WAY too slow) as cards in this tax bracket need to have their effects immediately felt to justify their costs. All the while making the deck a tad less conditional.

I'm sorry - you really feel like you can tell Amaz what is the better choice for a priest deck? He has talked about whether or not having CSP in his deck is smart soooo many times on stream, so you can your behind that he has put a lot of thought in it sorry if I'm coming off as aggressive, but I do think you're being a tad ignorant, thinking that you know more I'm sorry - you really feel like you can tell Amaz what is the better choice for a priest deck?He has talked about whether or not having CSP in his deck is smart soooo many times on stream, so you can your behind that he has put a lot of thought in itsorry if I'm coming off as aggressive, but I do think you're being a tad ignorant, thinking that you know more https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk

Nazca Profile Joined January 2013 France 6 Posts #15 The decklists come from here : http://www.millenium.org/hearthstone-heroes-of-warcraft/accueil/deck/les-decks-de-la-numericable-cup-decks-numericable-cup-hearthstone-millenium-tournoi-esport-blizzard-meta-111270

SonOfAriston Profile Joined June 2014 United States 4 Posts #16



Two of Bebearmenian's choices stuck out to me as odd. 1) Sunwalker Archmage Pyroblast



Also, iTzSnypah provided an excellent analysis of CSP in Amaz's priest deck and this is exactly the type of commentary I look for in the comments. Passive aggressively defending any of these players as gods among men doesn't contribute anything to the conversation. Great post! Very helpful to see modern incarnations of these top tier decks all in one place.Two of Bebearmenian's choices stuck out to me as odd. 1)Also, iTzSnypah provided an excellent analysis of CSP in Amaz's priest deck and this is exactly the type of commentary I look for in the comments. Passive aggressively defending any of these players as gods among men doesn't contribute anything to the conversation. Society is a weak excuse for a man.

Jinault Profile Joined February 2014 Ireland 54 Posts #17 On June 30 2014 22:58 Testuser wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 30 2014 12:03 iTzSnypah wrote:

Amaz hasn't progressed his Priest deck =[. Cabal Shadow Priest the dead card in the deck. It just sits in your hand while you wait for a target and when you finally get one the Mind Control Argent Commander Cairne Amaz hasn't progressed his Priest deck =[.isdead card in the deck. It just sits in your hand while you wait for a target and when you finally get one theeffect barely has any effect on the outcome of the game. I've replaced it with(triedfor awhile, but was WAY too slow) as cards in this tax bracket need to have their effects immediately felt to justify their costs. All the while making the deck a tad less conditional.

I'm sorry - you really feel like you can tell Amaz what is the better choice for a priest deck? He has talked about whether or not having CSP in his deck is smart soooo many times on stream, so you can your behind that he has put a lot of thought in it sorry if I'm coming off as aggressive, but I do think you're being a tad ignorant, thinking that you know more I'm sorry - you really feel like you can tell Amaz what is the better choice for a priest deck?He has talked about whether or not having CSP in his deck is smart soooo many times on stream, so you can your behind that he has put a lot of thought in itsorry if I'm coming off as aggressive, but I do think you're being a tad ignorant, thinking that you know more







purplerainbows Profile Joined April 2014 31 Posts #18 On June 30 2014 22:58 Testuser wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 30 2014 12:03 iTzSnypah wrote:

Amaz hasn't progressed his Priest deck =[. Cabal Shadow Priest the dead card in the deck. It just sits in your hand while you wait for a target and when you finally get one the Mind Control Argent Commander Cairne Amaz hasn't progressed his Priest deck =[.isdead card in the deck. It just sits in your hand while you wait for a target and when you finally get one theeffect barely has any effect on the outcome of the game. I've replaced it with(triedfor awhile, but was WAY too slow) as cards in this tax bracket need to have their effects immediately felt to justify their costs. All the while making the deck a tad less conditional.

I'm sorry - you really feel like you can tell Amaz what is the better choice for a priest deck? He has talked about whether or not having CSP in his deck is smart soooo many times on stream, so you can your behind that he has put a lot of thought in it sorry if I'm coming off as aggressive, but I do think you're being a tad ignorant, thinking that you know more I'm sorry - you really feel like you can tell Amaz what is the better choice for a priest deck?He has talked about whether or not having CSP in his deck is smart soooo many times on stream, so you can your behind that he has put a lot of thought in itsorry if I'm coming off as aggressive, but I do think you're being a tad ignorant, thinking that you know more



Hahaha @ "HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE INFALLIBLE, ALMIGHTY AMAZ!"

This isn't astrophysics, sycophant. And besides, adhering to this logic, one must never question or ask for a second opinion from a doctor because... how dare you, they know much more, peasant!

Hahaha @ "HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE INFALLIBLE, ALMIGHTY AMAZ!"This isn't astrophysics, sycophant. And besides, adhering to this logic, one must never question or ask for a second opinion from a doctor because... how dare you, they know much more, peasant!

shadowboxer Profile Joined November 2010 United States 10 Posts #19 On June 30 2014 16:54 dyDrawer wrote:

Show nested quote +

On June 30 2014 13:47 shadowboxer wrote:





Shaman is the only class with a slightly(very slight, mind you) favorable matchup against Druid



Uhm... Handlock?

Uhm... Handlock?



Druid does fine against Handlock with the addition of savage roar + FoN combo. You can keep him well above 15 hp the entire game and as long as you have one other 4/x on the field( not hard to do) you've guaranteed lethal without ever being threatened by molten. Dealing with mountain can be difficult if you draw zero ramp and zero removal but in that scenario Handlock wins vs. any class.



Handlock can do well vs. everything but I'd hardly say its a favorable matchup for Handlock. Druid does fine against Handlock with the addition of savage roar + FoN combo. You can keep him well above 15 hp the entire game and as long as you have one other 4/x on the field( not hard to do) you've guaranteed lethal without ever being threatened by molten. Dealing with mountain can be difficult if you draw zero ramp and zero removal but in that scenario Handlock wins vs. any class.Handlock can do well vs. everything but I'd hardly say its a favorable matchup for Handlock. "Hear that? That's God laughing at your plans."

Fawkes. Profile Joined July 2014 United States 6 Posts #20 Gaara's Priest deck is pretty interesting. The only one I'm used to seeing is Amaz's deck, so it's cool to see another top player trying the hero, and doing something fairly different with it. I think I'll stick with another one of Amaz's deck lists (without the CSP), but if I hit a wall I might try Gaara's alternative. Thanks for posting these!

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