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Was blocked unjustly, and via circular reasoning [ edit ]

Hello! You blocked me. This I circular reasoning for the first delete by Yaniv was inappropriate. He called my post “garbage”. I have a right to appeal to the editors board and speak, and people have been siding with me, but you and others keep blocking me! For nothing I’ve done on the administrators page! This is not okay! You aren’t using logic or sources, but ridiculous rules that you use whenever you feel it meets your agenda! STOP! Thank you for your time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.203.4.16 (talk) 05:05, 4 September 2018‎ (UTC)

CfDs [ edit ]

Since you've been nominating LumaNatic's WikiProjects for deletion, would you might closing or recruiting one of your admin friends to close the 2 CfDs at the bottom of this page? A consensus seemed to develop within days, but they've been open for a month and a half. Thanks, Natureium (talk) 18:02, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Natureium: Doug Weller talk 19:11, 18 February 2019 (UTC) Natureium: Doug Weller talk 12:15, 20 February 2019 (UTC) It's your lucky day! There are hundreds (possible exaggeration) of CfDs waiting to be closed! Natureium (talk) 15:44, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Refactoring [ edit ]

You put: "(Undid revision 884360923 by Sotuman (talk) really not a good idea to refactor the section heading, I'd already complained to Sotuman about his refactoring his talk page to put a comment of mine under an entirely different section heading)"

1. Please can you refer to me in the 2nd person, as it will then help me to refer to myself in the 1st person when making responses, as use of 3rd person is annoying for some people. 2. It was correct for me to refactor the heading, because a. There wasn't even an entry in the log where the admin who gave me notice of topic ban said it would be. No entry = no ban = no violation. b. Even still, it is only an alleged violation of a ban, as the banning admin has not yet mustered the energy to "...deal with the finer points buried in [my] page history...". compare further Presumption of innocence. 3. Chivalry is an excellent topic. If you had bothered to place your comment on my talk page under the respective user heading that was there at the time, I would not have bothered you by refactoring it under that heading. 4. In the interest of civility and to avoid potential conflicts of interest, I wish for you to not be a hostile witness. Please let Bishonen work through this on her own. 5. I do not care whether you like me or not. I know who I am, and I am happy with who I am. I may be banned or blocked completely from Wikipedia, the way thing have been progressing these past few days. Should that happen, I wish you all the best, and keep up the good work. Sotuman (talk) 06:43, 21 February 2019 (UTC) Sotuman made this edit at ANI which changed the heading from "Topic ban violation by Sotuman" to "Alleged by Tgeorgescu: Topic ban violation by Sotuman". Have a look at the rest of the page and its archives. I doubt you will find any support for adding "Alleged by X". Please stop wasting people's time. Do not reply here and do not comment at my talk. The issue is at ANI and that is where it should be discussed. The heading is the topic to be discussed. It is not a finding. FYI no sanction will occur for the topic ban violation because it is understood that people do not really grasp what WP:TBAN says until it is driven home. However, continuing to ramble while taking time and energy from other editors will result in a sanction. Johnuniq (talk) 06:59, 21 February 2019 (UTC) There's no conflict of interest. Insulting the banning Admin will get you nowhere. I'm glad you apologised but then you come here with a derogatory comment. The original section heading was standard. As for your talk page, clear communication is aided by separate section headings for new threads. Saying "you" in an edit summary is confusing and edit summaries are meant to be clear. You call yourself Sotuman, that's what I'll call you except on your talk page or when clearly replying directly to you elsewhere. Doug Weller talk 08:32, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

At risk user? [ edit ]

Please could you take a look at User:Hannahpartridgeig she is a minor or has special needs, she is posting her personal details and I am concerned that she is putting herself at risk. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 17:49, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Just noting that I went there intending to oversight but decided to only rev/del, then came here forgetting what I'd actually done! Doug Weller talk 19:34, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Adam and Eve [ edit ]

Hello Doug,

I do not agree with the face that it is misleading to remove "according to the creation myth" and change it to "according to the Abrahamic religion." I believe that adding the creation myth element is a form of discrediting the beliefs of those who believe in creation. There is no proven fact for how the universe was created, or how we came to be here, you may have separate beliefs, but that does not mean that you can subtly discredit the beliefs of others. There is no harm in stating that according to a religion this has come to be. the myth section was simply not needed and adds no value to the article and to think otherwise is delusion. If you have quarrel with my reasoning, please bring it up to me here instead of simply telling me that I am misleading individuals and reporting me for vandalism.

Thank you, Isaac — Preceding unsigned comment added by Idough (talk • contribs) 20:16, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Idough: Doug Weller talk 20:26, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Talk pages consultation 2019 [ edit ]

The Wikimedia Foundation has invited the various Wikimedia communities, including the English Wikipedia, to participate in a consultation on improving communication methods within the Wikimedia projects. As such, a request for comment has been created at Wikipedia:Talk pages consultation 2019. You are invited to express your views in the discussion. ~ Winged BladesGodric 05:16, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

We have an IP who is disrupting the talk page from multiple addresses, with comments consisting of inane ramblings and even some personal attacks. I won't fill your page with quotes, but here are some of the diffs if you'd like to have a look for yourself: [1][2][3][4]. I'm sort of spinning my wheels here; I've hatted one discussion, and another editor has hatted the other, but the IP is returning from a new address to undo the closure. How would you suggest this be handled? Wikieditor19920 (talk) 20:49, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Wikieditor19920: Doug Weller talk 21:05, 24 February 2019 (UTC) No worries, thanks! Wikieditor19920 (talk) 21:08, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

RevisionDelete request [ edit ]

Hello. I'd like to suggest that a revision be deleted. The revision in question is here. The edit inserted a source which was a link to an individual's psychiatric report marked "confidential" that is not in the public domain. I think removing this would be best to avoid publicising a confidential document with sensitive information on the individual and their family. Thanks for your consideration. McPhail (talk) 19:08, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

McPhail: Doug Weller talk 19:15, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Doug Weller: McPhail (talk) 19:23, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Books & Bytes, Issue 32 [ edit ]

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RFC Request [ edit ]

Dear Fellow Wikipedian





I would like to invite you to my RFC request on the page One America News Networks. I am reaching out to you to include your expert opinion and your solution to this problem in the RFC request. Please also invite more editors so that we can have a fair discussion that will improve the page.





Kind Regards

Saad Ahmed2983 (talk) 11:13, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

New Chronology article guidelines [ edit ]

Hello Doug,

I'm sorry for the tone of the remark on my edition to "New Chronology (Fomenko)" edit, but I was a little bit frustrated by the lack of dialogue I was expecting after my contribution to the talk page. I thank you, too, for the convenient rewriting of the matter as it is reflected now in the article, although I find it too elaborated to just illustrate the parallelism of the event.

Certainly I was perplexed to the alleged 'confusion' of citing 'In Greece' rather than 'In Spain' that seemed more clear despite being false??...

Well, now I'm asking you about the guidelines of the article at hand. At this time, more likely than not, you are perceiving me as something like a New Chronology advocate, apologetic, freak, etc. that's not the case.

The truth is, I have profounded for some time on Fomenko's writings and justifications, mainly its foundations. I think I can provide *objectivity* on what is claimed and what is not, what claims are presented as facts, or mere probable hypothesis, etc. I find that this theory, no matter if it's 'correct' or not, cannot easily be described as "pseudoscientific" (mathemathicians and astronomers are very cautious about this, historians being more prone to tag it as such, mainly by its consequences), and has its own 'internal coherence', is something like a 'system' or 'paradigm' which 'explains things' from another, sometimes radical, point of view.

What I'm thinking about is: explaining this 'system' (for now, lets refrain from arguing if true or false) is considered 'promoting' New Chronology? Or the other way around: Hiding this 'system' is trying to omit further interest from the reader?

My own experience: when I became to know NC, first place I went to inform myself was this article on wikipedia. Time passed, and I decided to throw my own judgement on this work. After some months my feeling is that wikipedia just wanted to 'prevent' me to know more, to 'save' me from 'mad theories'.... But now I know more orthodox history, more alternative views, the problems of chronology, the history of history, the history of chronology criticism, etc.

For this reason,I don't want to edit the article myself. But I want it to be an objective account of the subject, and in this regard, I think our goals are coincident.

That's why I'm asking you: what are the main guidelines of the article? Do you think it would be interesting that I would elaborate on some aspect, then present it to you, to consider its publication?.

Chronology refutation and its consequent radical historical revisionism is a deep, non trivial problem. For an impartial and deep primer on the problem I would suggest, from non Fomenko-affiliated mathematician Florin Diacu, Johns Hopkins University Press Book "The lost millenium, history timetables under siege".

Greetings and thanks for your time, Carlos

Cjbaiget (talk) 19:08, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Cjbaiget: WP:VERIFY is key. Editors can add their own thoughts or analysis. If I can get hold of Diacu's book I'll have a look, meanwhile I have a review of it. I'm not sure what you mean about main guidelines. DO use the talk page though, not here, so others can see. I'd love to know how Diacu gets around dendrochronology. I'm busy though although right now is supposed to be the time my wife and I are together watching tv, most of the day we're busy with our own interests! I agree too much elaboration except without it I think people would be confused - as they were. Doug Weller talk 19:33, 27 February 2019 (UTC)





I need your help on this, too. [ edit ]

Sorry for that. You are partly right. I have deleted so many thing because I feel there is a political agenda behind so many non-sense about the Kurdish regions that some Chaldean group are trying to campaign for. I discovered it accidentally and I regret the rushed changes that I did, but I hope that all the articles produced by the same group be revised carefully, if Wikipedia is going to remain a reliable source of information and knowledge. I will try to fulfill the objectivity you asked for. I will try to revise my previous edits, too. I appreciate your concern, but I hope that this is going to be a beginning for the revision of a whole set of articles about the region. I am sure that you know better than me how to do it. Thank you again. KurdoChali (talk) 21:44, 27 February 2019 (UTC)