One of the most interesting parts of the story is how he describes the UFO switching from one traveling mode to another requiring it to go up on its side to focus the engine things, exactly as shown in the recent TTS Gimbal video.

Offhand I can't think of another UFO video which shows that and it's interesting he made that call back in the 80s.

Picture him as an Ice Age tribesman explaining to his tribes' colleagues how he believes that a modern airplane works, if somehow a modern airplane appeared in front of them in 10,000 BC.

In 1989, Area 51 became known worldwide as Lazar in an interview claiming to have researched alien propulsion systems in the S-4 section of the base. The aim was to rebuild the systems that, according to Lazar, came from another planetary system. In fact, Lazar was able to provide detailed information on this strange technology in the interview.

However, when Lazar told friends about his secret research on the base and told them at which times over the base test flights of top-secret prototypes would take place, Lazar was fired.

In the further process, it came to controversies regarding Lazar's descriptions. For example, Lazar's professional career showed gaps, after which he claimed the government had deleted details of his resume in order to cast doubt on his reputation. For example, although it was confirmed that Lazar had worked in the Los Alamos National Laboratories, as he claimed, the certificates of completion of his education remained missing. However, Lazar passed an independent lie detector test on his allegations.

On the 25th anniversary of the interview, Bob Lazar spoke again and gave George Knapp the opportunity to interview. During a tour through the Atomic Testing Museum, where replicas based on Lazar's statements are exhibited, Lazar reports that he has now finished with the UFO theme: "Look, I don't make lectures or videos on UFOs. This has nothing to do with my job. I'm trying to run a scientific business model and if I'm the UFO type there, it makes it difficult. It's to my advantage if people don't believe the story," says Lazar.

Nevertheless, Lazar did not miss the opportunity to talk about details of the propulsion system he had researched at the time, which was supposed to have been operated with the aid of element 115: "Barry started the reactor, which consisted of a flat plate and a hemisphere in the form of a half basketball. After activation, the sphere could no longer be touched. If you wanted to lay your hand on it, it was like the two poles of a magnet. Exactly the same kind of force. We threw a golf ball after that, which loosened a ceiling tile after it bounced off. This alone is incredible and could change everything we think we know," Lazar explains, adding, confronted with the question of the truth of his Area 51 statements: "Look, I know what happened is true. There's no doubt about it. End".