rkffhk Profile Blog Joined November 2010 426 Posts Last Edited: 2012-01-23 16:37:08 #1 Hey guys,



Me and Eishi_Ki were playing League of Legends together Monday night here and we were just talking about how much fun we used to have at 신촌 station at Jason Lee's place, Yaletown. We were both craving a burger and since Eishi_Ki leased an apartment near Yaletown for the sole purpose of being able to barcraft with us at that restaurant regularly, I figure we should collectively find a reason to go visit and tell Jason to shut up and take our money.



Personally, I would love that Mushroom burger with the Poutine deal again.



Monday and Tuesday are the Lunar New Year, which is a big deal in Korea, so Yaletown probably won't be open... but I was wondering if we can find some time this week to meet up and have lunch or dinner. (Lunch is a lot cheaper, though)



Any ideas on a date? Personally, I'm on vacation from my job all this week and so I have all the time in the world to play here.





Regards,

~The guy with the old school TL shirt, a.k.a. the guy who kissed NeverGG's hand "Did not realize gold was such an important threshold for people, I guess I honestly take it for granted that if people practice / invest enough time into this game then they would make diamond in no time." ~Caihead

Eishi_Ki Profile Joined April 2009 Korea (South) 1396 Posts #2 Aye, sole purpose hahaha



In srsness, would be good to have another meetup, if you're in Seoul and you fancy meeting some handsome fellows, post it up and we will get something arranged



~ The Scottish guy

yaletown Profile Joined October 2011 Korea (South) 110 Posts #3 Believe it or not, I recently received an email from GOM TV asking me NOT to host Barcrafts anymore. I then asked for a refund on my 1 year pass, which I paid for if I'm not allowed to host them and they abliged.

Therefore I will no longer be PROMOTING Barcrafts. If you would like to informally gather and ask me to turn on the TV to your favourite programs under your account, I can accomodate that.



As for the reasoning behind GOM's email, I have NO Idea at all... you're only as good as your last game

blubbdavid Profile Blog Joined February 2010 Switzerland 2400 Posts #4 Lol GOM.



Why don't you invite In_Dove to have some drinks with you lucky fellas in Seoul? (if he resides in Seoul) What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods

rkffhk Profile Blog Joined November 2010 426 Posts #5 On January 25 2012 04:23 yaletown wrote:

Believe it or not, I recently received an email from GOM TV asking me NOT to host Barcrafts anymore. I then asked for a refund on my 1 year pass, which I paid for if I'm not allowed to host them and they abliged.

Therefore I will no longer be PROMOTING Barcrafts. If you would like to informally gather and ask me to turn on the TV to your favourite programs under your account, I can accomodate that.



As for the reasoning behind GOM's email, I have NO Idea at all...



... I don't even...



Whatever. I want that mushroom burger. Who's in? ... I don't even...Whatever. I want that mushroom burger. Who's in? "Did not realize gold was such an important threshold for people, I guess I honestly take it for granted that if people practice / invest enough time into this game then they would make diamond in no time." ~Caihead

Looms Profile Joined May 2010 United States 4569 Posts #6 On January 25 2012 04:23 yaletown wrote:

Believe it or not, I recently received an email from GOM TV asking me NOT to host Barcrafts anymore. I then asked for a refund on my 1 year pass, which I paid for if I'm not allowed to host them and they abliged.

Therefore I will no longer be PROMOTING Barcrafts. If you would like to informally gather and ask me to turn on the TV to your favourite programs under your account, I can accomodate that.



As for the reasoning behind GOM's email, I have NO Idea at all...



wtf GOMTV... is that really Mr. Chae's stance? wtf GOMTV... is that really Mr. Chae's stance?

mizU Profile Blog Joined April 2010 United States 11896 Posts #7 Oh my god... Gom is killing esports... if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_

Scarecrow Profile Blog Joined July 2009 Korea (South) 8982 Posts #8 GOM banning barcraft... do they really think they lose out on account buyers/studio audience because of the occasional barcarft? Whoever's behind this needs their head checked.



I'm up for meeting up, especially for the burgers. Although I'd prefer dinner and a few beers.



~ the aussie guy Yhamm is the god of predictions

mizU Profile Blog Joined April 2010 United States 11896 Posts #9 I don't think that they realize that a lot of people that go to Barcrafts buy tickets, and go to live events...

/facepalm if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_

Tomken Profile Joined January 2010 Norway 1129 Posts #10 Gasp........ terrible GOM wtf. MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~

Kiett Profile Blog Joined March 2011 United States 5789 Posts #11 Banning Barcraft because you're afraid people will skimp out on tickets is even stupider in Seoul, considering attending the matches live are free too. Are they going to ban people from coming to the studio because they'd rather have those people stay home and pay to watch? Ridiculous. Writer :o

RunningInSquares Profile Blog Joined July 2009 United States 215 Posts #12 I would say that GOM is probably trying to force more foreigners to show up to the live matches; but that was not a problem when I was there and to boot, they don't have enough space.

Rekrul Profile Blog Joined November 2002 Korea (South) 17172 Posts #13 hahahahahahahahaah omg gom are you serious why so 진지해?

Mitchlew Profile Joined September 2010 Australia 428 Posts #14 How do they even enforce that?

KeksX Profile Blog Joined November 2010 Germany 3629 Posts Last Edited: 2012-01-25 09:04:30 #15 On January 25 2012 15:08 Looms wrote:

Show nested quote +

On January 25 2012 04:23 yaletown wrote:

Believe it or not, I recently received an email from GOM TV asking me NOT to host Barcrafts anymore. I then asked for a refund on my 1 year pass, which I paid for if I'm not allowed to host them and they abliged.

Therefore I will no longer be PROMOTING Barcrafts. If you would like to informally gather and ask me to turn on the TV to your favourite programs under your account, I can accomodate that.



As for the reasoning behind GOM's email, I have NO Idea at all...



wtf GOMTV... is that really Mr. Chae's stance? wtf GOMTV... is that really Mr. Chae's stance?

It's understandable.



If one barcraft gets 80 people to watch on one stream they lost 79 viewers, now imagine there were 10 barcrafts in korea. Roughly 700 "potential" viewers lost.



They have to fight for each viewer and barcrafts work against that. People don't realize that when there are thousands of people watching but they only generate like 100 views it's pretty dumb(for the event). Just think of the real numbers; people are always complaining about how sc2 gets less viewers than LoL, yet they forget that barcraft take away viewers. (Viewers as in numbers) It's understandable.If one barcraft gets 80 people to watch on one stream they lost 79 viewers, now imagine there were 10 barcrafts in korea. Roughly 700 "potential" viewers lost.They have to fight for each viewer and barcrafts work against that. People don't realize that when there are thousands of people watching but they only generate like 100 views it's pretty dumb(for the event). Just think of the real numbers; people are always complaining about how sc2 gets less viewers than LoL, yet they forget that barcraft take away viewers. (Viewers as in numbers)

Primadog Profile Blog Joined April 2010 United States 4405 Posts #16 On January 25 2012 04:23 yaletown wrote:

Believe it or not, I recently received an email from GOM TV asking me NOT to host Barcrafts anymore. I then asked for a refund on my 1 year pass, which I paid for if I'm not allowed to host them and they abliged.

Therefore I will no longer be PROMOTING Barcrafts. If you would like to informally gather and ask me to turn on the TV to your favourite programs under your account, I can accomodate that.



As for the reasoning behind GOM's email, I have NO Idea at all...



Fuck that shit Fuck that shit Thank God and gunrun.

OPL3SA2 Profile Joined April 2011 United States 370 Posts #17 On January 25 2012 17:59 KeksX wrote:

Show nested quote +

On January 25 2012 15:08 Looms wrote:

On January 25 2012 04:23 yaletown wrote:

Believe it or not, I recently received an email from GOM TV asking me NOT to host Barcrafts anymore. I then asked for a refund on my 1 year pass, which I paid for if I'm not allowed to host them and they abliged.

Therefore I will no longer be PROMOTING Barcrafts. If you would like to informally gather and ask me to turn on the TV to your favourite programs under your account, I can accomodate that.



As for the reasoning behind GOM's email, I have NO Idea at all...



wtf GOMTV... is that really Mr. Chae's stance? wtf GOMTV... is that really Mr. Chae's stance?

It's understandable.



If one barcraft gets 80 people to watch on one stream they lost 79 viewers, now imagine there were 10 barcrafts in korea. Roughly 700 "potential" viewers lost.



They have to fight for each viewer and barcrafts work against that. People don't realize that when there are thousands of people watching but they only generate like 100 views it's pretty dumb(for the event). Just think of the real numbers; people are always complaining about how sc2 gets less viewers than LoL, yet they forget that barcraft take away viewers. (Viewers as in numbers) It's understandable.If one barcraft gets 80 people to watch on one stream they lost 79 viewers, now imagine there were 10 barcrafts in korea. Roughly 700 "potential" viewers lost.They have to fight for each viewer and barcrafts work against that. People don't realize that when there are thousands of people watching but they only generate like 100 views it's pretty dumb(for the event). Just think of the real numbers; people are always complaining about how sc2 gets less viewers than LoL, yet they forget that barcraft take away viewers. (Viewers as in numbers)



This should simply be taken into consideration when comparing stream numbers. That's about it. As far as GOM's stance on the matter, it's pretty stupid. Maybe they are in the process of making special accounts that have the right to stream to an audience that are more expensive (and not sold on the main page - there would be little reason for that). But unless that's where GOM is heading, then their stance is just dumb. This should simply be taken into consideration when comparing stream numbers. That's about it. As far as GOM's stance on the matter, it's pretty stupid. Maybe they are in the process of making special accounts that have the right to stream to an audience that are more expensive (and not sold on the main page - there would be little reason for that). But unless that's where GOM is heading, then their stance is just dumb. Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?

Imbu Profile Blog Joined May 2009 United States 852 Posts #18 On January 25 2012 04:23 yaletown wrote:

Believe it or not, I recently received an email from GOM TV asking me NOT to host Barcrafts anymore. I then asked for a refund on my 1 year pass, which I paid for if I'm not allowed to host them and they abliged.

Therefore I will no longer be PROMOTING Barcrafts. If you would like to informally gather and ask me to turn on the TV to your favourite programs under your account, I can accomodate that.



As for the reasoning behind GOM's email, I have NO Idea at all...

Wow.... I don't even know what to think about that....



It's weird that Blizzard seems so into the whole BarCraft movement that they even spotlight them no battle.net....



I home GOM reverses this.... it would suck that if in Korea you couldn't do something like this... Wow.... I don't even know what to think about that....It's weird that Blizzard seems so into the whole BarCraft movement that they even spotlight them no battle.net....I home GOM reverses this.... it would suck that if in Korea you couldn't do something like this... @DreamingBird

oOOoOphidian Profile Joined January 2011 United States 1399 Posts #19 I don't see why they wouldn't just try to charge a license fee rather than attempt to shut them down. Creator of sc2unmasked.com

KeksX Profile Blog Joined November 2010 Germany 3629 Posts #20 On January 25 2012 18:14 OPL3SA2 wrote:

Show nested quote +

On January 25 2012 17:59 KeksX wrote:

On January 25 2012 15:08 Looms wrote:

On January 25 2012 04:23 yaletown wrote:

Believe it or not, I recently received an email from GOM TV asking me NOT to host Barcrafts anymore. I then asked for a refund on my 1 year pass, which I paid for if I'm not allowed to host them and they abliged.

Therefore I will no longer be PROMOTING Barcrafts. If you would like to informally gather and ask me to turn on the TV to your favourite programs under your account, I can accomodate that.



As for the reasoning behind GOM's email, I have NO Idea at all...



wtf GOMTV... is that really Mr. Chae's stance? wtf GOMTV... is that really Mr. Chae's stance?

It's understandable.



If one barcraft gets 80 people to watch on one stream they lost 79 viewers, now imagine there were 10 barcrafts in korea. Roughly 700 "potential" viewers lost.



They have to fight for each viewer and barcrafts work against that. People don't realize that when there are thousands of people watching but they only generate like 100 views it's pretty dumb(for the event). Just think of the real numbers; people are always complaining about how sc2 gets less viewers than LoL, yet they forget that barcraft take away viewers. (Viewers as in numbers) It's understandable.If one barcraft gets 80 people to watch on one stream they lost 79 viewers, now imagine there were 10 barcrafts in korea. Roughly 700 "potential" viewers lost.They have to fight for each viewer and barcrafts work against that. People don't realize that when there are thousands of people watching but they only generate like 100 views it's pretty dumb(for the event). Just think of the real numbers; people are always complaining about how sc2 gets less viewers than LoL, yet they forget that barcraft take away viewers. (Viewers as in numbers)



This should simply be taken into consideration when comparing stream numbers. . This should simply be taken into consideration when comparing stream numbers. .

But how do you do that? But how do you do that?

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