STATE COLLEGE -- James Franklin and his staff, and college coaches across the country, can no longer work at other program's summer camps.

Some are happy about it. Others, not so much.

Either way, as of last Friday's ruling by the NCAA Division I council to ban so called satellite camps, effective immediately, they are nothing but a blip in the rearview mirror.

Success, as it relates to the camp, is hard to define. Should it be measured by the number of kids that signed with a school because of them, by the brand awareness they created (separate problem: how is that measured?), or by another factor?

There isn't a right or wrong, answer, except for maybe one, as it relates to Penn State:

"I sure am glad we got that kicker and punter coming in," Franklin said Wednesday night.

Both hail from Georgia, as kicker Alex Barbir and punter Blake Gillikin both spurred offers closer to home to accept scholarships at Penn State. They'll arrive in June, with a chance to start come September, and it's fair to say both earned their opportunity after performing for the Lions' staff during camp at Georgia State last summer, where both impressed enough to draw interest.

"Obviously who I am, game film and stats also played a factor, but seeing me perform in person how I did was the game changer for me, and that was made possible by this satellite camp," Barbir told PennLive last Friday.

No other recruits that attended the camps committed to Penn State, but if both help earn the Lions a win, or wins, down the road, was the travel time, and money, spent on the camps worth it?

The answer is yes.

But since the NCAA's answer to the continuation of satellite camps was no, prospects across the country will miss out on getting to work out for FBS schools from far away, and schools will lose the chance to introduce themselves to prospects not familiar with them.

That's the biggest loss in last week's NCAA ruling, no matter what wins come out of the satellite camps held before it.

"As you guys, we're a little isolated here, it's not the easiest place to get into or get out of," Franklin said. "So if we have the opportunity to go somewhere else and interact and connect with certain kids and certain families and certain schools, we'd like to do that.

"We did it. The rule now is 'not legal' so now everybody's back on a level playing field.''