CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Hate the Browns plan? Despise losing now in the name of getting better later?

Then this podcast will make you want to destroy your audio device.

On this Takes By The Lake, Jordan Zirm of ESPN Cleveland (among other media outlets) joins me to praise and analyze the Browns teardown and the Sashi Brown process without any outside interference.

If you hate the plan, maybe we can change your mind or at least make a few points to make you think about it a different way. Or, you may just want to punch me.

If you do like the plan, or are at least willing to tolerate it, then this is the podcast for you.

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